Uses for fur?

[Necoryn]

Just curious if there's any specific use for fur as of the latest update. It looks like any "fur" clothes are actually made from wool, so, should I just sell all my fur? I've got like 600 of it just taking up space in the resource shed :/

[Sairi (Jen)]

There are some fur clothing like the boots and capelet, but since you only need 1. Make the rest to fur capelets and sell them off ;)

[Father Damien]

There are some clothing items I sell that requires Fur, like Fur Boots and you make an additional 30 gold profit over selling the crafting items individually. Also I can't remember if Quilted Vest requires Fur but that's my favourite profitable clothing item.

[Trim]

I haven't checked the latest prices, but in 0.3.1.4 it was barely worth doing anything with fur unless you also had wool, when you could make fur hood or long fur hood, but even then the profit was essentially from turning the wool into something, not from using the fur. Quite honestly, you may as well just sell the fur.

[Father Damien]

Yes most of the profit comes from Wool, and it depends on whether you consider an additional 30 gold as worth it or not rather then selling the crafting items directly. But 40 Fur Boots for instance you can clean 1 vendor out with that additional 30 gold you're making. It's probably still worth getting your crafter in the sewing building to produce items say when you don't have any flax stalk or wool to work with so they level up. But when you start out you barely have any Wool to start with as 8 wool is required for 1 thread. I am building up a collection of Wool right now. Also new players will not have the fold for quite some time. There are actually only a very few items that don't require Wool where you make an additional 30 on top of the selling price of the crafted items put together. Like Fur Boots. But most of the items are not worth it untill you get wool. Like Fur Capelet before the update you only made an additional 8 gold with max batter skill. A new player would also make good use out of selling simple bags rather then selling the leather directly also.

Quilted vest for instance amazing profit but you only have so much Wool to work with. Say if I run out of Wool I might start making fur boots instead. I haven't calculated profit on all the items yet since the update so there are probably more items with Wool that are worth selling, but most fur items are not worth it. But that doesn't mean there isn't money to be made on the few items that do Personally I'm finding profit less and less useful as I progress through the game but it's a goal to work towards in the game I suppose. A nice fund for your dynasty. I sell clothing items, Cooked dishes, feathers and Berry wine atm.

[Sairi (Jen)]

Fur capelets don't require wool, they require linnen, to be exact:
12 fur + 2 linnen thread

With no barter skill they only give 2 coins profit compared to raw materials, but it's 22 at max level

It's 17 for fur boots at max level

In discord we have a datasheet in which you can see your profit per item made depending on your barter skill

[Trim]

Originally posted by Sairi (Jen):

Fur capelets don't require wool, they require linnen, to be exact:
12 fur + 2 linnen thread

I forgot about weight in my earlier post. 600 fur weighs 150 kg, so it is a good idea to convert it into clothing before selling even if it makes no extra money. Fur boots and shoes would be a waste of leather (which are far more profitable making simple bags) so fur capelets are probably the thing to make. Linen makes precious little money whatever you do with it, so it may as well be used here.

Really, I'd prefer a little more balancing. Unprocessed and threshed flax (grains and stalks) seem so far overpriced, they unbalance everything else. Flax grain should be practically worthless, since there is nothing that can be done with it apart from planting it, when you end up with more grain than you started with. Alternatively, give us a linseed oil recipe. I'm not sure what we'd use the oil for (cricket bats?), but it would give flax grain a purpose. Linen thread ought to be worth more than the stalks it is made from.

[Willow Rivers]

Originally posted by Trim:

I haven't checked the latest prices, but in 0.3.1.4 it was barely worth doing anything with fur unless you also had wool, when you could make fur hood or long fur hood, but even then the profit was essentially from turning the wool into something, not from using the fur. Quite honestly, you may as well just sell the fur.

I checked when I could make fur shoes. Added up the materials to see what the vendor would pay for the leather and fur vs the crafted shoes and I got about 10 coins more for the crafted item.

So I craft the shoes and gain crafting xp as well as make money.

[Trim]

Originally posted by Willow Rivers:

I checked when I could make fur shoes. Added up the materials to see what the vendor would pay for the leather and fur vs the crafted shoes and I got about 10 coins more for the crafted item.

So I craft the shoes and gain crafting xp as well as make money.

I bet it doesn't work out if you compare it with what you get from turning the leather into simple bags and selling the fur as fur. Since you can make 2.67 simple bags for every fur shoes you can make, you get more XP as well.

Simple bags are probably overpriced, but pretty much everything else in sewing is underpriced (linen items particularly so), unless you have wool.

[Father Damien]

Originally posted by Sairi (Jen):

Fur capelets don't require wool, they require linnen, to be exact:
12 fur + 2 linnen thread

With no barter skill they only give 2 coins profit compared to raw materials, but it's 22 at max level

It's 17 for fur boots at max level

In discord we have a datasheet in which you can see your profit per item made depending on your barter skill

Fur Boots = 168.8 sale price = 16 fur + 12 leather = 144 manufacturing cost = 24.8 profit

Fur Capelet = 157.5 sp = 2 linen + 12 fur = 144 mc = 13.5 profit

I worked it out this way, so i believe Fur Boots have a higher profit then 17.
When i work out the manufacturing cost aswell i value anything with Linen thread as Linen Fabric as Linen thread can be crafted into Linen Fabric in no time at all. So i still see Fur Capelet as a waste of time. You might aswell save that Linen and make Flat straw hat instead.

Flat Straw hat = 82.5 sp = 30 straw + 1 linen = 48 mc = 34.5 profit

Simple Bag = 30 sp = 3 leather = 18 mc = 12 profit

I never saw Simple bags as a waste of time, i agree leather is best used on simple bags for best profit. I still craft them now but the way i play i like to clean all the vendors out every season. So if i made 7 Fur Boots i could potentially clean 1 vendor out on the map. However, even if 21 simple bags were crafted at the same pace as 7 fur boots the crafter would still need to make double the amount of bags to equal the selling value of 7 fur boots. I don't see any issue with this as it's not like there is ever a shortage of leather and Fur. At the cost of losing an extra 300 profit from not crafting 42 simple bags as appose to 7 fur boots, i would rather make money more quickly, I can easily sell 100 feathers and make 300 that way.

[Sairi (Jen)]

Manufacturing cost is 152 for fur boots according to the sheet I used

But hey what works for someone, just works. I don't even bother collecting fur in the first place...

[TheOriginalMark:-)]

I find selling Flax to be most profitable - easy to grow a lot of it and it sells for a decent price.

[Capuzzi09]

Originally posted by Mark:

I find selling Flax to be most profitable - easy to grow a lot of it and it sells for a decent price.

You sell only the flax seeds, right? Or do you sell the complete plants?

[Father Damien]

Should be the flax seeds, seen as you get the stalk and seed from threshing the flax plant, and the seed is of the same value as the flax plant itself right? I've just sold a few thousand flax seeds just now. I like to sell a variation of things and they all do a circulation depending on what i'm crafting or whats available. Food, excess flax grain, clothing items and Berry Wine atm.....oh and feathers.

[Trim]

Originally posted by Capuzzi09:

You sell only the flax seeds, right? Or do you sell the complete plants?

It pays to thresh the flax, but it is hardly worth keeping the stalks to turn into linen thread, and there is no use for the seeds except for planting more flax, so sell the surplus seeds and sell most of the stalks. Make sure you keep enough stalks for linen for your own uses though (bows, bags, fur capelets, woollen garments and whatever other clothing you are making)