marriage and age difference

[Not MrBallen]

What is the max age difference for a couple to get together, I thought it was 10 yrs but looking through my villagers I have a pervy 40yr with a 28 year old AND they have a 5yr old!

[Morri]

For your player character it's max 10 year difference.
For your villagers however, it's 20 years I believe.

[Chris]

Nothing wrong with it its pretty normal. Also she is almost 30

[Dutchgamer1982]

Gameplay first :

-you can put any woman of any age with any man of any age in the same house.
however if the age gap between them is over 20 years they will never form a couple, and never get kids.
-villagers also stop getting kids at 50, this counts for the oldest of a couple.

so an 38yo and a 18yo if put in the same house still will couple up, and have 12y to get kids, but if you couple your 30yo woman to a 50yo man.. they never will get kids anymore.

-the CHANCE for them to get kids is related to the age difference though, so a 49yo+49yo have a better chance to get a child than a 18yo+24yo

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as for the morality :

I see nothing pervy bout their age gap.
-my uncle and aunt irl differ 13y and they got together when she was 16 and he was 29.. been happely married for 50 years.

morally there is the "modern society rule" of half your age +7.
so for the 40yo person the minimum moral age for a parter is 27 and maximum 66
-> so she is old enough for him, though granted if they got married 6 years ago, she was a little to young for him back than but not today.

and this game plays in the 11th century when 60yo kings marry 12yo princesses was all the rage;) if anything the fact we can only marry 18yo's and above is already way more restrictve than the game should be;)

than there is the law, that differs per nation, for my nation :

21yo :

18-20yo : can do everything, but not prostitution

16-17yo : can do everything, but not prostitution, drinking, marriage, driving
-this includes sexual relationships, but sharing sexual immages of a person under 18 is still illigal, it is legal if an 80yo does an 16yo, but if she sends you a nude picture, you still can be charged) -cannot be criminally charged at this age, will recieve youth justice instead

12-15yo same as 16yo, but for this age range the partner must be below 21yo when the relation started. so 21+ and under 16.. is still criminal unless when the relation started when the partner was still under 21yo. -cannot criminally charged at this age, will recieve youth justice instead

under 12yo same as 16yo, but now sexual intercource is only allowed with partners at most 24 months older. outside this range it is criminal. a person under 12yo can never be charged for anything not even murder.

so a person of 34 dating a person of 22.. may frown some eyebrows... as it's outside the moral half your age +7 range.. it is well within todays law.

[Morri]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

-villagers also stop getting kids at 50, this counts for the oldest of a couple.

Where do you get that info from? From what I gathered their specific age doesn't matter and only the age gap is important.
I really wish you wouldn't state stuff as fact without actually being sure or verifying...

This is also not the place for a debate about the morality of age differences in society. We have an off-topic forum if you want to discuss non-game related stuff there.

[Not MrBallen]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

Gameplay first :

-you can put any woman of any age with any man of any age in the same house.
however if the age gap between them is over 20 years they will never form a couple, and never get kids.
-villagers also stop getting kids at 50, this counts for the oldest of a couple.

so an 38yo and a 18yo if put in the same house still will couple up, and have 12y to get kids, but if you couple your 30yo woman to a 50yo man.. they never will get kids anymore.

-the CHANCE for them to get kids is related to the age difference though, so a 49yo+49yo have a better chance to get a child than a 18yo+24yo

-------
as for the morality :

I see nothing pervy bout their age gap.
-my uncle and aunt irl differ 13y and they got together when she was 16 and he was 29.. been happely married for 50 years.

morally there is the "modern society rule" of half your age +7.
so for the 40yo person the minimum moral age for a parter is 27 and maximum 66
-> so she is old enough for him, though granted if they got married 6 years ago, she was a little to young for him back than but not today.

and this game plays in the 11th century when 60yo kings marry 12yo princesses was all the rage;) if anything the fact we can only marry 18yo's and above is already way more restrictve than the game should be;)
--->
I personally have an uncle and aunt who got together when he was 29yo and she was 16yo.. and they have been married for over 40 years.. and are still very much in love today. I see nothing wrong with it.

than there is the law, that differs per nation, for my nation :

21yo :

18-20yo : can do everything, but not prostitution

16-17yo : can do everything, but not prostitution, drinking, marriage, driving
-this includes sexual relationships, but sharing sexual immages of a person under 18 is still illigal, it is legal if an 80yo does an 16yo, but if she sends you a nude picture, you still can be charged) -cannot be criminally charged at this age, will recieve youth justice instead

12-15yo same as 16yo, but for this age range the partner must be below 21yo when the relation started. so 21+ and under 16.. is still criminal unless when the relation started when the partner was still under 21yo. -cannot criminally charged at this age, will recieve youth justice instead

under 12yo same as 16yo, but now sexual intercource is only allowed with partners at most 24 months older. outside this range it is criminal. a person under 12yo can never be charged for anything not even murder.

so a person of 34 dating a person of 22.. may frown some eyebrows... as it's outside the moral half your age +7 range.. it is well within todays law.

my original question was genuine, the way I worded it was light hearted, you dont need to feel offended as no hurt or malice was intended.

[hubbemattsson]

And as always, Dutch comes in with "facts" without knowing a squat 😢

That people even bother.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by Morri:

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

-villagers also stop getting kids at 50, this counts for the oldest of a couple.

Where do you get that info from? From what I gathered their specific age doesn't matter and only the age gap is important.
I really wish you wouldn't state stuff as fact without actually being sure or verifying...

This is also not the place for a debate about the morality of age differences in society. We have an off-topic forum if you want to discuss non-game related stuff there.

Not all information I find by testing.. nobody does.
in fact most I take from information sources aka the wiki, this forum etc;)

and multiple of these sources listed for this game : the change to get kids is related to age difference, not age (but nobody yet has given me percentages) but that age matters in that "villagers won't get kids past 50"

[Morri]

A lot of the wiki contains outdated info; so best not to state what you read there as fact unless you are sure that it indeed still works like that.
It's confusing as hell for people new to the game otherwise.

[Milinia]

I'm sorry I'm in a bad mood so I probably shouldn't post...but

I don't play the game at the moment because I'm waiting for the next big update but I do read the forum every day because I love it here and it feels like home. However, I am getting sick and tired of one person being allowed to insert all sorts of useless, unsourced and off topic information that nobody asked for.

Please delete that nonsense and go post in Off Topic!

[hubbemattsson]

Oh, you could only wish ..

[Trondesson]

Originally posted by Milinia:

I'm sorry I'm in a bad mood so I probably shouldn't post...but

I don't play the game at the moment because I'm waiting for the next big update but I do read the forum every day because I love it here and it feels like home. However, I am getting sick and tired of one person being allowed to insert all sorts of useless, unsourced and off topic information that nobody asked for.

Please delete that nonsense and go post in Off Topic!

I for one found the info of Dutchgamer1982 interesting, but I also understand that there are a lot of people, too many these days actually, who are content living in their bubble of limited knowledge and are not interested in learning facts that are not immediately useful to them or in picking up some common knowledge on the way.
As for the age gap: It's ridiculous and unrealistic even to introduce something like that in the game because that just wasn't happening in the middle ages, just like the two years maternal leave which no peasant could ever afford. And even today it would be overly restrictive, except maybe for some religious zealots. My own wife is 17 years younger than me, my grandmother was 21 years younger than my grandfather, and none of us ever had any problems that couples of the same age don't have. In the game I met two women with good skills that were a measly 10 years older than my character and thus out of reach.
Anyway, I guess these things won't be changed anymore as many have complained about the maternal leave before and it still exist, and the age gap must have been introduced after that as before I didn't have to worry about that. Bummer.

[Kwalyz]

RE: NPCS aged 50 will no longer having children. This might be partially correct based on a reply from TuppenceStick in another thread - see quote below.

Originally posted by TuppenceStick:

It is possible once you've moved a child out of their parents home that the parents will have more children. My understanding is that the want to have children cuts off at age 50 but if the meter for that is full and a space becomes available they can still have a child after that.

(thread this was posted in was "questions about houses" by Dutchgamer1982 on 17 Jun 2022 - so not easy to find any longer.)

I am finding it to hold true for my couples. They had no spare bed prior to age 50. Then as I've been moving their adult children out, and now they have a spare bed, none have gotten pregnant.

However, it might NOT hold true if the NPC is one of the "special" NPCs that you get from the wife/son quests - as Eternie can attest to - they reported that the "special" NPC Georgina at age 62/63 had a third child with their husband Wilhem (also a "special" NPC). See quote below, from thread "An aging population" by Eternie.

Originally posted by Eternie:

I can confirm that Georgina is having her second child at age 62. I just hope she lives long enough to have her child reach age 14 and join the community. Luckily Wilhem her partner another special npc is 3 years younger.

Georgina is a special Npc ... she was My first special NPC (if I remember correctly ) The one that our wife sent you to talk to. At the time she was quite old already I think 33.
Luckily the second Special NPC for me Wilhem was close to her age and they made a great couple ..both married had kids and gained skills quickly. Which was quite surprising.

[Foxglovez]

My Mom was 23 and my Dad 41 when they got married, freshly out of the TB sanatorium they were both vacationing in. She had the last rites of the Catholic Church at the age of 21 and outlived her doctors & the overzelous priest by many years which always made her quite proud of herself.
I know, tmi.

[greypoe]

In the old days, even early America a man who was of age to have children could marry a girl who had first blood. Some men who couldn't find a girl of age until another generation grew up could marry a girl who just had her first period as long as the father and family were ok with it. Having a girl this young meant that they could have 10 or more children sometimes.
The world needing to be populated, this was a good thing. Today it's not considered a good thing because of population control.

[Eternie]

I still hope that if parents were to pass away and the kid or kids have relations in the village that they could stay in the village.

With having parents and grandparents in game the thought that the grandparents die before a brother is old enough to work as an apprentice He may still stay in his house as he still has a sister with family.

So in my example of Georgiana (Now 63 ) and husband Wilhem 56 are living with their son Lotomir 2. but their daughter Ingyrda 23 is living with her Husband. At their age, living long enough for their son to become an apprentice would need to reach 65 + 68 Respectively. So I hope that works.