Hunters and Knives

[Gelotri]

Anyone notice how the hunters go through skinning knives like water? I put 20 copper knives in storage for them to use and before a season is finished, they are all gone. Not too bad where Lumberjacks and Axes are concerned. But the knives, it seems it doesnt matter what type you put in storage for them, they seem to just eat them. Maybe someone has a black-market on the side and I should start interrogations.

Devs: Any way to slow that consumption a bit? It seems a bit extreme.I am all for replacing tools but this doesnt seem normal.

[Goldi:AI]

Tool are consumed per item crafted. So, if your hunters are good and produce a lot in a short time, they need more tools in a short time as well. If they aren't so good, they need less.

[emitfudd]

I don't bother with copper or bronze knives and axes anymore. I just have my blacksmiths make stone ones. The resources are more available and they keep up just fine. I do think copper, bronze and even iron tools seem to deteriorate way too fast.

[Spotter]

Originally posted by GoldiRie:

Tool are consumed per item crafted. So, if your hunters are good and produce a lot in a short time, they need more tools in a short time as well. If they aren't so good, they need less.

Knives, especially Bronze, and Iron, can be sharpened, or rehabilitated in RL. They should not wear away anywhere near as fast as they do in game. That said, Iron weapons and tools should be near impervious to wear, and prized highly. Costing very much more than Bronze, or Copper.

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by Spotter:

Originally posted by GoldiRie:

Tool are consumed per item crafted. So, if your hunters are good and produce a lot in a short time, they need more tools in a short time as well. If they aren't so good, they need less.

Knives, especially Bronze, and Iron, can be sharpened, or rehabilitated in RL. They should not wear away anywhere near as fast as they do in game. That said, Iron weapons and tools should be near impervious to wear, and prized highly. Costing very much more than Bronze, or Copper.

From the few iron tools I have used so far, they seem to break as fast as the bronze ones. I think iron should be pretty much impervious to wear since it is the highest tier in the game.

[Werric]

I would like to see the wear go down as the NPC skill goes up.

Good craftsmen, hunters and so on take care of their tools.

[Chief]

i got to agree my real life hunting knife is a homemade one that goes back to 1930's and it still going strong i can see a wooden tool not being good but you going break the handle before the other part goes down on the others then replace the handle

[tivaber]

Originally posted by Spotter:

Knives, especially Bronze, and Iron, can be sharpened, or rehabilitated in RL. They should not wear away anywhere near as fast as they do in game. That said, Iron weapons and tools should be near impervious to wear, and prized highly. Costing very much more than Bronze, or Copper.

+1

[Dennis]

Originally posted by lgcoltwalker:

i got to agree my real life hunting knife is a homemade one that goes back to 1930's and it still going strong i can see a wooden tool not being good but you going break the handle before the other part goes down on the others then replace the handle

I hear what you guys are saying - But you realize that '1930's knife' is
even closer to our time than it is to the time in this game? By centuries...

400-500 years of technique and Science to make that 1930's knife diff from the ones we are making in game. And I'm betting it's not Pig Iron?

We are not making good Iron. It suuuuuuucks compared to what we think of "Iron" in our lives. This time period's Iron behaves closer to Lead than what we think of as Iron.

Not taking a stance on the exact in-game relationship on wear between the types. I assume the ratio is purely driven by game mechanics and balance - not historical wear data.

I agree that skill should reduce wear.

[Chief]

and your trying to tell me a knife even made out of pig iron wouldn't last more than a season the hardest part cleaning on some animal is busting though the pelvic bone as far has that knife in the 30's was made i wasn't around when my grandfather made it

[Spotter]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

Originally posted by Spotter:

Knives, especially Bronze, and Iron, can be sharpened, or rehabilitated in RL. They should not wear away anywhere near as fast as they do in game. That said, Iron weapons and tools should be near impervious to wear, and prized highly. Costing very much more than Bronze, or Copper.

From the few iron tools I have used so far, they seem to break as fast as the bronze ones. I think iron should be pretty much impervious to wear since it is the highest tier in the game.

Ahh yes, yes. Game life versus Real Life strikes again. 👍🤣🤣🤣

[S†ƴх]

Just so you know, in the management panel, at each building, you can see who is affected and what's the health of the tool people are using in it, and definitely stop spamming stupid stuff like "iron is not even better than bronze". It is, by alot, needs 2 times less farming and have much more hit points. "They have eyes, but they can't see".

[Goldi:AI]

Keep it polite, please.

[S†ƴх]

Goldi, I know you or some mod did their job on other topics, here's my answer :
Giving informations and pushing people to use their brain. I'm not calling names, but having to do the job while eyes should be enough bothers me alot : it's like if the UI guys at the office did NOTHING to make the game a bit transparent as to what do what, while it's NOT the case, these are very basic topics and shouldn't fill the forums. IMO, that's why we can't have nice things, too much time taken to cater to people who don't even try. I'm tired of it.

[Jerry Fletcher]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

I don't bother with copper or bronze knives and axes anymore. I just have my blacksmiths make stone ones. The resources are more available and they keep up just fine. I do think copper, bronze and even iron tools seem to deteriorate way too fast.

Exactly this!
They only get wood and stone tools.

[Chief]

Originally posted by S†ƴх:

Just so you know, in the management panel, at each building, you can see who is affected and what's the health of the tool people are using in it, and definitely stop spamming stupid stuff like "iron is not even better than bronze". It is, by a lot, needs 2 times less farming and have much more hit points. "They have eyes, but they can't see".

i'm sure a lot of us knows about that tab i use it a lot good way to keep ahead of the demand i also know a brand new iron hoe should last longer than a day and that was on a 10x10 field