Mini Motorways
Snobby Hobo Jul 15, 2023 @ 3:32pm
The game can actually genuinely deadlock you with RNG
The more I play this game the more I get annoyed with the fact the spawning isn't explicitly incorporated. So instead players come up with janky mechanics derived from the rules like spawn controlling (building non-connected roads so buildings won't spawn there).

In some maps the RNG becomes unbearably bad. For example Moscow; I played 2 games on this map and 2 out of 2 times it spawned the houses in the closed off section exclusively, and the sinks outside. So all had to be routed through 1 bridge because I didn't get any, which immediately killed the game before the third week ended.

Mini Motorways does a lot of things well, but it doesn't seem to recognize that the primary challenge arises from something the player cannot properly control.
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🦊 Hermit Jul 15, 2023 @ 8:39pm 
I will admit this is something that kinda irritates me at times. If you play the game enough, you may get a good roll once in a while and actually stand a chance of getting a decent score, but often the spawning will just make it impossible. When that happens I just restart, but because it's so common I frequently end up in restart loops for half an hour or more where each game lasts less than a few minutes, before I just tire of it and quit.
spielerinchen Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Snobby Hobo:
Mini Motorways does a lot of things well, but it doesn't seem to recognize that the primary challenge arises from something the player cannot properly control.
i think you just now realised that primary challenge of the game.
what you still not realise is, the game always plays against you. not with you, not neutral to you, no, straight against you. the main task for the player is to be smart enough & skilled enough & patient enough to hold out. but eventually the game will inevitably win.

& yes, at times there are situations in the very beginning of a session where you have absolutely no chance of playing cause as described a vital bridge is missing.
that you should report as bug. a situation like that shouldn't happen. you have to have a chance.
but if you are missing a bridge later on you have hoped for, well, that's then on you not thinking ahead.

& part of the gameplay is to change the layout to a more advantageous one asap. oc only if you're not in the Expert mode, where the challenge is exactly the inability to change road layout later on, so you have to get better skilled at recognizing what you have to do & you better shouldn't.
Snobby Hobo Jul 19, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by spielerinchen:
Originally posted by Snobby Hobo:
Mini Motorways does a lot of things well, but it doesn't seem to recognize that the primary challenge arises from something the player cannot properly control.
i think you just now realised that primary challenge of the game.
what you still not realise is, the game always plays against you. not with you, not neutral to you, no, straight against you. the main task for the player is to be smart enough & skilled enough & patient enough to hold out. but eventually the game will inevitably win.

& yes, at times there are situations in the very beginning of a session where you have absolutely no chance of playing cause as described a vital bridge is missing.
that you should report as bug. a situation like that shouldn't happen. you have to have a chance.
but if you are missing a bridge later on you have hoped for, well, that's then on you not thinking ahead.

& part of the gameplay is to change the layout to a more advantageous one asap. oc only if you're not in the Expert mode, where the challenge is exactly the inability to change road layout later on, so you have to get better skilled at recognizing what you have to do & you better shouldn't.

This has to be the most pretentious comment I've read this year. Congratulations.

My man; the mechanical depth of this game, *especially* the part that is clearly communicated to the player, is about something I could cook up when I was 11 years old and in elementary school. I'm not sure how in the world you seem to assume it's some elaborate puzzle only few have the wits for to unravel.

The game does not play against you. I have no idea where you got the idea that it does either. It simply randomizes the challenge; which might or might not be desirable. Hence spawn controlling exists (which is a very ugly implicit piece of player agency).

Lastly you admit that the game has the issue I describe, yet you use it as an angle to accuse me of not understanding the game. Like what the ♥♥♥♥ is going on in that rodent brain of yours?
spielerinchen Jul 20, 2023 @ 12:51am 
yep, a Snobby Hobo acuses me of being "pretentious" & progresses with insults.

maybe MM is just over your ability to grasp, in that case, maybe go play some other games, which suit you better, there are soooo many.

bye.
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