Vampires : New playable races

[Zwilith]

Dear devs,

Loved the game so far, I just tried the first campain but I wish you could add thematic content to add a new race that you already have in lore : vampire.

All best !

[Berserkr]

Probably not gonna happen they are pretty much limited to what's in the SRD

[Dallas S]

How would you travel outside? Sounds like a way to make the game way more tedious than it needs to be.

[Wantoomany]

Vampires are not a race, it's a condition. That usually ends up with the DM making your PC into an NPC.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Vampires are not a race, it's a condition. That usually ends up with the DM making your PC into an NPC.

If your DM sucks, then yeah they would do that. One of my favorite characters I ever played, I purposely turned myself to a vampire.

[Zwilith]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Vampires are not a race, it's a condition. That usually ends up with the DM making your PC into an NPC.

Yup depends of the lore, in Pathfinder II you can play as a Dhampir for instance, which is not really a vampire but half vampire, half human.

[Dallas S]

Dhampir also exist in dnd, but they aren't part of the srd so wouldn't be allowed.

But vampire is technically a condition/template that you put on to any race.

[Wantoomany]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Vampires are not a race, it's a condition. That usually ends up with the DM making your PC into an NPC.

If your DM sucks, then yeah they would do that. One of my favorite characters I ever played, I purposely turned myself to a vampire.

Oh yeah, it's great for the person playing the vampire. It's also incredibly selfish and sucks for everyone else because now the entire party and quest chain needs to cater to one special snowflake.

Your party needs to talk to an NPC to advance a quest? You can't because its daylight. So now the entire part needs to wait until night time and break into the man's house. Or the entire party now needs to deal with the vampire feeding on the locals, because no one was paying attention to them for 5 minutes, side tracking the whole adventure.

Sure, some people can probably play a vampire well enough to not be an extreme burden to the rest of the party. But, at least from my own observations, it just becomes another way to apply an "I'm special" badge on a player that has to be the center of attention.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

If your DM sucks, then yeah they would do that. One of my favorite characters I ever played, I purposely turned myself to a vampire.

Oh yeah, it's great for the person playing the vampire. It's also incredibly selfish and sucks for everyone else because now the entire party and quest chain needs to cater to one special snowflake.

Your party needs to talk to an NPC to advance a quest? You can't because its daylight. So now the entire part needs to wait until night time and break into the man's house. Or the entire party now needs to deal with the vampire feeding on the locals, because no one was paying attention to them for 5 minutes, side tracking the whole adventure.

Sure, some people can probably play a vampire well enough to not be an extreme burden to the rest of the party. But, at least from my own observations, it just becomes another way to apply an "I'm special" badge on a player that has to be the center of attention.

One, you assume I was playing with a party. Two, you assume I didn't find a way to be able to be in the daylight.

[Wantoomany]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

One, you assume I was playing with a party. Two, you assume I didn't find a way to be able to be in the daylight.

Of course, because what can be more special then a vampire without one of it's significant downsides.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

One, you assume I was playing with a party. Two, you assume I didn't find a way to be able to be in the daylight.

Of course, because what can be more special then a vampire without one of it's significant downsides.

It involved me spending the 3 wishes I happen to have.

[Wantoomany]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Of course, because what can be more special then a vampire without one of it's significant downsides.

It involved me spending the 3 wishes I happen to have.

Wow, 3 wishes.

So just to recap, in my effort to suggest that DMs allowing players to play excessively special characters, like vampires, ruins games. Due to catering to extra snowflake characters that have to be the center of attention. You counter by saying you played one that was a day walker, in a solo party being the only center of attention, with a pocket full of wishes that you just happened to have.

Nothing extra or special there. You have completely undermined my point and I concede the argument.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Zwilith:

Yup depends of the lore, in Pathfinder II you can play as a Dhampir for instance, which is not really a vampire but half vampire, half human.

Pathfinder released official rules for playing as full fledged, undead characters with their Book of the Dead supplement.

Among the list of playable options, they included the Skeleton (ancestry), as well as the Ghost, Zombie, Ghoul, Mummy, Vampire and Lich (archetypes).

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

It involved me spending the 3 wishes I happen to have.

Wow, 3 wishes.

So just to recap, in my effort to suggest that DMs allowing players to play excessively special characters, like vampires, ruins games. Due to catering to extra snowflake characters that have to be the center of attention. You counter by saying you played one that was a day walker, in a solo party being the only center of attention, with a pocket full of wishes that you just happened to have.

Nothing extra or special there. You have completely undermined my point and I concede the argument.

The dm gave me a ring of wishes, rolled it randomly. Sorry your dms didn't let you have fun.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

One, you assume I was playing with a party. Two, you assume I didn't find a way to be able to be in the daylight.

Of course, because what can be more special then a vampire without one of it's significant downsides.

Vampires have a ton more weaknesses than lycanthropes do; yet for some reason, people seem to think playing a vampire is overpowered, while having no issue with contracting lycanthropy.

Just a reminder that Lycanthropes are pretty much immune to non magical weapons, unless they're made from silver. Meaning that if you're lucky enough to contract the disease early in the campaign, you're practically invincible during most combat encounters.

[BoxMageOfOld]

Originally posted by Berserkr:

Probably not gonna happen they are pretty much limited to what's in the SRD

Technically speaking vampires are not part of any book as playable, the Dungeon manual only has a small input on how you could do it, and dhampir are not vampires... not even specifically half vampires since you can go the full parasite route flavor wise in the books.

So yeah we could get a vampire race, heck we could even get playable mindflayer race (not that it would ever happen, but technically would be homebrew not official content)