Cheat Codes?

[Poopy-Doops]

I dropped difficulty to story mode and still I'm facing endgame-boss level soraks who out number my party.
I like a smart challenge -this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ asinine.
Am I meant to back out of the 'Sorak's Head' mission and grind somewhere?
If not are their any cheats, admin panel, trainers......?

[brucesloose]

If you are stuck, use stealth and a ranged attack/spell to open combat. The surprise round mechanic is broken the way the game does it. You can just have one person do the stealth attack and everyone will get a free bonus round at the start.

[Grumpy Old Dude]

what level is your party?

here's my party getting the Sorak head: (enter the Sorak chamber at 1:01:30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SskQ2f7kpTQ&list=PLm_iFrgsdkTlRSfkUI0BhLxIX8sVKOMGr&index=4

[Poopy-Doops]

Originally posted by brucesloose:

If you are stuck, use stealth and a ranged attack/spell to open combat. The surprise round mechanic is broken the way the game does it. You can just have one person do the stealth attack and everyone will get a free bonus round at the start.

Thanks, what about grinding, should I back out of the whole sorak level from the point where you fight the soraks and just 'map' back and forth grinding small encounters?

[Grumpy Old Dude]

shouldnt have to

[brucesloose]

Unfortunately, the game is very linear until after you finish that fight (still somewhat linear later too). Your only real choice for grinding is going back and forth between the city and sorak area at that point (random encounters on the road).

The good news is that's one of the game's harder fights so it will get better.

[brucesloose]

Pre buff your party (bless, aid, special abilities), stealth attack opener, and focus fire an enemy down during the free round should get you there without grinding. Fight at the top of the stairs and let the enemies come to you (don't fight all at once at the bottom).

If you rolled for stats and have characters with 12 or something in their main stat (e.g. strength or dexterity for fighters), you might want to restart.

[eRe4s3r]

If you show us your party we might deduce what impairs your progress ;) I am guessing you start the fight sub optimally (at the stairs) instead of around the back behind the rock where they can only get from 1 direction with plenty of line of sight breaks to hide your rogue archer and spellflingers. (As in, action hide)

[Ommamar]

You should be able to handle this fight at level 3, there are a couple of quests that help you get there that take you back to the outpost or you can use the mentioned travel between the outpost and the city mentioned by others.

Besides the mentioned tactics there is also a room on the far side that you have to crawl into through a hole. The opening at the end limits how many soraks can rush to fight you at once. If you have things like entangle, grease, sleep, or the best option if you brought a druid is the thorn spikes you can cast around a group of soraks. There are lamps you can light with spells like sparkle or flame bolt, these make it so soraks can't regenerate so position yourself near them. The one shaman that flies dies fairly easy if you interrupt his concentration after he casts flight. The cantrip annoying bee is actually very effective at doing this. I also like to place the druid spell moonbeam right on the square under him he rarely moves away from it and it is designed specifically for shapeshifters which the sorak fall into.

[Poopy-Doops]

My Solution:
Party were all level 3 - most will have a level 3 party at this point unless they thought to grind before the Sorak's Head mission.

You can only go back as far as the beginning of the excavation site, you can't get back to world map and HAVE to go through with the Sorak mission.

Bruce's suggestion about keeping party in sneak mode helped a lot; was able to drop three Soraks before they were keen to me.

I also had to set difficulty to 'Story' and then set 'Custom' Difficulty giving myself 1+ in all areas and enemies 1- in all areas.

Game dev's didn't account for unorthodox party builds = for example I have a Thief, a Sorceress and 2 Fighters.

[Grumpy Old Dude]

you may find you will have issues with multiple combats. Perhaps not, but likely.

[Ommamar]

Originally posted by Carnival73:

My Solution:
Party were all level 3 - most will have a level 3 party at this point unless they thought to grind before the Sorak's Head mission.

You can only go back as far as the beginning of the excavation site, you can't get back to world map and HAVE to go through with the Sorak mission.

Bruce's suggestion about keeping party in sneak mode helped a lot; was able to drop three Soraks before they were keen to me.

I also had to set difficulty to 'Story' and then set 'Custom' Difficulty giving myself 1+ in all areas and enemies 1- in all areas.

Game dev's didn't account for unorthodox party builds = for example I have a Thief, a Sorceress and 2 Fighters.

I have beaten this fight with a full class group for every class in this game on authentic difficulty and above. It isn't that hard once you understand the mechanics and how to manipulate them.

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Dude:

you may find you will have issues with multiple combats. Perhaps not, but likely.

He is right there are some much harder combats then this one further along the main campaign.

[Poopy-Doops]

With the tweaks the Sorak battle was rather easy so I'm returning settings back to
Authentic until I get BS'd again.

[Meomyo]

If he wants to cheat, let him cheat, it affects none of you in any way, shape or form! Far too many judgemental people on the net. You live your life how you want to and let others live it their way

[Hystorm]

Originally posted by Meomyo:

If he wants to cheat, let him cheat, it affects none of you in any way, shape or form! Far too many judgemental people on the net. You live your life how you want to and let others live it their way

On that note, Fire up: WeMod. There is a trainer in there that will do anything needed.

[Soteria]

Originally posted by Those You've Betrayed For Cheese:

With the tweaks the Sorak battle was rather easy so I'm returning settings back to
Authentic until I get BS'd again.

This may not be the game for you. The main attraction is the combat, and if your reaction to a tougher fight is "how do I cheat my way through this," then you may not enjoy this game. As others said, this is hardly the hardest fight in the game. Your party composition is not "unorthodox." It is entirely vanilla and perfectly viable.

There are some fights that are poorly designed in this game, but this is not one of them. I don't say this to be mean, but the problem is neither your party composition nor the fight design, but your tactics. If you want to learn, you can and will get through it, but, like I said, this may not be your type of game, and that's fine, too.