CDPR made Sandevistan worthless.

[ManOfCulture]

Sandevistan builds are 100% ruined. I'm forced to netrun instead. I liked being a god that can stop time and ruin things anytime I wanted to. I earned that fun. I paid for that fun.

And what does CDPR do? Release a 2.0 overhaul update that replaces shorter cooldowns and extended durations per kill with higher crits and more damage. I tested the new post 2.0 Sandevistan setups on Maxtac soldiers. Started a crime spree.

I used to be able to just slow time and wreck them. I could keep it going with every kill. It was fun. It was thrilling and I enjoyed the spectacle. Who the hell told you I wanted these changes to Sandevistan?

Now Sandevistan passes as a fart in the wind. Maxtac is a nightmare to deal with. Even with high defense. While I didn't die easily, it was like fighting boss characters over and over now.

It's single player game. Why does it matter how overpowered we get? Thanks for pulling a Destiny 2 in a singleplayer game, CDPR. Once I am done with this "New and improved way of playing.", I don't ever wanna see this game again.

Yes, the game plays better, is smoother, tons of things function more effectively, cars can shoot now, we have vehicle combat. And for what? Even some weapons got nerfed. In a single player game.

If there is a sequel, it can go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned. CDPR just keeps picking apart what I paid for, and that sucks. The stuff that works should of worked to begin with. 2.0 my ass.

I put the old values back on the cyberware I used because I hate when devs make stupid choices in the name of fun. Long story short, it made Phantom Liberty bug out. Hard.

After I beat Phantom Liberty, CP2077 can go sit in a dumpster. If there is a sequel, I could care less, because I won't buy it. It'll probably be woke anyway. I hate getting ripped off.

Guess I'll just netrun with high defense and mitigation. This is just my opinion. Rant over.

[mistahbungle]

Git...

[Mewsha]

lol

[CATinGLASSES]

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

Originally posted by CATinGLASSES:

womp womp

If you don't have anything constructive to say. Just don't say anything.

you weren't constructive in the first place.

I understand your disappointment about Sandevistan rework, but that feedback is far from being objective itself. While its your personal preference, it doesn't have to be the ultimate opinion on the matter: lots of other players out there, you know. Having broken mechanics for the game that itself is pretty simple even on very hard difficulty makes the game even more idle. Some players, like you, want to feel omnipotent, so they liked old Sandy. Some players, like me, seek challenge, so I'm in favor of less game-breaking mechanics

To each its own, long story short. You weren't providing constructive criticism, hence I said that you were whining lol

[ManOfCulture]

Originally posted by CATinGLASSES:

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

If you don't have anything constructive to say. Just don't say anything.

you weren't constructive in the first place.

I understand your disappointment about Sandevistan rework, but that feedback is far from being objective itself. While its your personal preference, it doesn't have to be the ultimate opinion on the matter: lots of other players out there, you know. Having broken mechanics for the game that itself is pretty simple even on very hard difficulty makes the game even more idle. Some players, like you, want to feel omnipotent, so they liked old Sandy. Some players, like me, seek challenge, so I'm in favor of less game-breaking mechanics

To each its own, long story short. You weren't providing constructive criticism, hence I said that you were whining lol

I legit said that the rant was my opinion. If you wanted challenge, there are ways to achieve that. This isn't about your desire for challenge.

It's about people's saves getting messed with every time CDPR releases a new version of this game. It's about people having to change how they play because the devs are treating CP2077 like a live service game. That's early access behavior.

You might be okay with that. I assure you some people are not. To each his own you say? Tell CDPR that. You think challenge was why they tweaked so many things?

At the end of the day, most people who had pre 2.0 saves like me, had to start over. Excuse me for not being happy about that. I didn't know until I started over again and realized I wasted resources in a build that is no longer viable.

You're missing the point and that is fine. Don't call it whining. I paid for this game and it's not the same in terms of variety because everything is streamlined or nerfed into oblivion. If you call that challenge, then something is wrong with your head.

[Nar!]

Posting a rant like this is bound to receive comments you're not going to favor, op.

The sandi changes came a long while ago and it's been generally determined by both players and CDPR, that there were things that needed to be nerfed and reorganized, in order to bring better overall quality to combat mechanics and challenges to the table.

Quite frankly, I think Sandi metas are still op as heck and I'm not sure why you're having a hard time with it. There are people out there who can still, easily slice through multiple Maxtac agents until their PCs crashes, using the Sandi + blades meta.

If you desire more constructive feedback, I'll give you one. Start a new save, practice with the changes and find your tune again. You'll see that the changes aren't all that bad, once you get used to them.

Sure you won't be able to slice through the Tac with a blindfold on anymore, but maybe that's not such a bad thing. Take the challenge. Take the nerf and work it.

Pre 2.0 saves are as relevant as 2077 PS4 discs, man. Did you not get the memo after all this time? It's been well over a year since they changed things around. Those saves are obsolete, especially if you wanted to run Phantom Liberty, which only works with 2 and up.

Cool down a little. Think it over.

[valium]

Sandi is one of the things left largely the same with the 2.0 update, they just made it so you cant keep it going indefinitely anymore. It was a good change because it made Berserk more of a viable option, where THAT was worthless before 2.0 in comparison to Sandi.

[ManOfCulture]

Originally posted by Nar!:

Posting a rant like this is bound to receive comments you're not going to favor, op.

The sandi changes came a long while ago and it's been generally determined by both players and CDPR, that there were things that needed to be nerfed and reorganized, in order to bring better overall quality to combat mechanics and challenges to the table.

Quite frankly, I think Sandi metas are still op as heck and I'm not sure why you're having a hard time with it. There are people out there who can still, easily slice through multiple Maxtac agents until their PCs crashes, using the Sandi + blades meta.

If you desire more constructive feedback, I'll give you one. Start a new save, practice with the changes and find your tune again. You'll see that the changes aren't all that bad, once you get used to them.

Sure you won't be able to slice through the Tac with a blindfold on anymore, but maybe that's not such a bad thing. Take the challenge. Take the nerf and work it.

Pre 2.0 saves are as relevant as 2077 PS4 discs, man. Did you not get the memo after all this time? It's been well over a year since they changed things around. Those saves are obsolete, especially if you wanted to run Phantom Liberty, which only works with 2 and up.

Cool down a little. Think it over.

Last time I played was in 2020. Then I waited to see what was new. 4 years later my old saves and Sandi build are defunct, so I had to start over.


If Pre 2.0 saves were viable, mine didn't work because it was too old.
I didn't start over because I wanted to. So your argument is take the nerf and just accept it?

That is for shills. I already spoke on my opinion on what you call "challenge." Nothing is wrong with having a power fantasy as an option.
This is my opinion.

Fyi I did not keep up with the game. This overhaul/downgrade is a mixed bag to me after beating it a second time.

[ingus76]

To original poster, @ManOfCulture
Without any rage, I wish say, that while you wrote so long complain text, you could be possible search Nexus to found any mod wich almost rewert old gameplay style.
OK, i dont know is exactly such mod exist, but I believe must be or someone will create such earlier or later.
Also I prefer pre2.0 gamestyle, when crafting was really useable, when search components was real pointable action, but OK, we have what we have. This city is too addictive to leave it, just because someone change some of laws.
I believe if someone manage change any laws, then someone also can rewert them back, something alike that.
If I found such mod in future, I will let you know about it here in this thread.

[★REM★]

Its not ruined, it is as it should always been. Not a stupid OP mechanic with 100% uptime.

Im sorry you cannot win easy anymore.

[ManOfCulture]

Originally posted by ★REM★:

Its not ruined, it is as it should always been. Not a stupid OP mechanic with 100% uptime.

Im sorry you cannot win easy anymore.

That's a nonsensical retort with 0 context.
I refuse to deal with you.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by ManOfCulture:

It's single player game. Why does it matter how overpowered we get?

It matters to me. Balance in video games matters. Don't give me the "if it's too powerful don't use it" crap. Imagine DOOM with the BFG on infinite ammo. Doesn't sound very fun now, does it? "Just don't use the BFG if you don't like it."

If you want your character to be stupidly overpowered use cheats.

Even so, Cyberpunk still has major balance issues. Ever tried the Byakko for example? WTF is that attack speed? It can kill most enemies almost instantly. Combine with berserk for even more disgusting damage.

[ShelLuser]

Rants like these only showcase that you don't understand the mechanics.

No, I'm not talking about in-game such as Sandevistan, I'm talking about Steam. If you don't like the 2.0 update, then why not go back to 1.63?

Open your Steam library, check the games properties and in specific check out the Betas tab. Beta participation allows you to select either 2.13_old or 1.63_legacy.

So... nothing is stopping you to go back.

[Chaosolous]

Disagree.

[ULTRA]

I have a sandevistan build in 2.2 and the game is practically just a point-and-click adventure, intentional dodging is optional and just for passive bonuses basically and literally the only time I've died in about 40 hours is from jumping off a building early on

[ManOfCulture]

Originally posted by ShelLuser:

Rants like these only showcase that you don't understand the mechanics.

No, I'm not talking about in-game such as Sandevistan, I'm talking about Steam. If you don't like the 2.0 update, then why not go back to 1.63?

Open your Steam library, check the games properties and in specific check out the Betas tab. Beta participation allows you to select either 2.13_old or 1.63_legacy.

So... nothing is stopping you to go back.

You're missing the point. The old version isn't updated. It still has some of the old issues. So you're telling me to go back and play the older, less stable version?
Just so I can play how I want?

"Nothing is stopping you from going back." You can eat those words. What a dull thing to say. Omg, I'm so done with you people. Say whatever. Idc. Convo over.