Kindaaa need to rant about this game for a second

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

First off, If it wasn't for mods, mods that SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED INTO THE GAME such as the metro system, Dalamans(probably butchered the spelling there) cab system, Being able to interact with the DOZENS of street merchants and stalls across night city. Being able to grab a bite to eat at any one of these stalls WITH animations AND buffs that makes it so going out to eat is actually a useful, viable act rather then just something to do that has zero meaning behind it. A mod which gives different gang/enemies different stats which makes gathering info actual useful. A car garage where i can customize my own rides. I could go on but my point is this, All of these mods should have been added into the game by now, The world in Night city is absolutely stellar but its like walking into an arcade and all they have is pong,

There was so much hype around this game and THANK GOD for the modding community, otherwise i wouldnt have finished this game.

And also, what gives with the lack of iconic weapons? How hard would it have been for Skippy's holo animation to pop up every now and then and give funny one liners or something. Or at the very least make Skippys gun looks more unique then just by making it look like a weathered down version of the regular version of that tech pistol. But not just that weapon, why couldn't we have more weapons with unique designs? Ones that could possibly drop from beating cybersycho's and they could of had there own unique weapon rather then just looting a random gun you've seen 100 times by now.

All together, i give this game a 7/10. Maybe 7/5. Its simply just okay which is a shame but more then that its weird how CD went from the Witcher 3 with every expansion they dropped being a complete banger every single time.

Just needed to rand about this game for a second.

[Booker T-Witt]

you talk about the mods, the funny part if that some of the mods dont even add anything, they incorporate features that are ALREADY in the game that are just not even used. The blood decals, the population density, there's even a completely unused driving Ai, unless they updated it recently, dont think they did though.

question about the eating mods though, are you using both Immersive Food Vendors and Street Vendors? If so, do they work in tandem? I was kinda disappointed upon finding out I could only go to specific locations.

[ShelLuser]

It's spelled rant and well, I have to disagree with you. I played this game in full force in full vanilla, after that I embraced the mods and while I most definitely agree that the metro system is fun to have...

... I also think you're denying yourself another awesome aspect of this game as well.

Driving the roads? 1st perspective, 3rd perspective.. been there, done that.

Each to their own but IMO the hype never went overboard. And I cannot help think that if you can't appreciate this game without mods then... the game is simply not for you. Easy as that, and nothing wrong with that either.

I mean, for me.. the hype was real. Yah, I read about both the hype and all the bad press and postponed a bit, then dove in head first. No offense, but do you even realize what the cyberpunk genre means or stands for?

Because during my first play I sure as heck got Motoko vibes all over me. And when I got the Kusanagi bike, and then later on re-read the name and managed to piece things together my mind almost exploded :P

Pure vanilla...

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Originally posted by Booker T-Witt:

you talk about the mods, the funny part if that some of the mods dont even add anything, they incorporate features that are ALREADY in the game that are just not even used. The blood decals, the population density, there's even a completely unused driving Ai, unless they updated it recently, dont think they did though.

question about the eating mods though, are you using both Immersive Food Vendors and Street Vendors? If so, do they work in tandem? I was kinda disappointed upon finding out I could only go to specific locations.

Not one mod i mentioned is in the vanilla experience >___>

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Originally posted by ShelLuser:

It's spelled rant and well, I have to disagree with you. I played this game in full force in full vanilla, after that I embraced the mods and while I most definitely agree that the metro system is fun to have...

... I also think you're denying yourself another awesome aspect of this game as well.

Driving the roads? 1st perspective, 3rd perspective.. been there, done that.

Each to their own but IMO the hype never went overboard. And I cannot help think that if you can't appreciate this game without mods then... the game is simply not for you. Easy as that, and nothing wrong with that either.

I mean, for me.. the hype was real. Yah, I read about both the hype and all the bad press and postponed a bit, then dove in head first. No offense, but do you even realize what the cyberpunk genre means or stands for?

Because during my first play I sure as heck got Motoko vibes all over me. And when I got the Kusanagi bike, and then later on re-read the name and managed to piece things together my mind almost exploded :P

Pure vanilla...

I mean, i said rant in the title then had one typo and you wanna go the "ACKUALLLYYYY" rout lmao

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Originally posted by ShelLuser:

It's spelled rant and well, I have to disagree with you. I played this game in full force in full vanilla, after that I embraced the mods and while I most definitely agree that the metro system is fun to have...

... I also think you're denying yourself another awesome aspect of this game as well.

Driving the roads? 1st perspective, 3rd perspective.. been there, done that.

Each to their own but IMO the hype never went overboard. And I cannot help think that if you can't appreciate this game without mods then... the game is simply not for you. Easy as that, and nothing wrong with that either.

I mean, for me.. the hype was real. Yah, I read about both the hype and all the bad press and postponed a bit, then dove in head first. No offense, but do you even realize what the cyberpunk genre means or stands for?

Because during my first play I sure as heck got Motoko vibes all over me. And when I got the Kusanagi bike, and then later on re-read the name and managed to piece things together my mind almost exploded :P

Pure vanilla...

I also said it was a 7/10 experience so yeah i guess youre right. I thought the game was decent at best so its not for me lmao

[Mr_Blank]

Interesting take, I do ahree that cyberpunk overall is a bit weaker than Witcher 3 both narrative and gameplay wise.

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

Interesting take, I do ahree that cyberpunk overall is a bit weaker than Witcher 3 both narrative and gameplay wise.

This game is THE example as to why you should never rush your games. The combat is really good, the world is spectacular and the story (Even though i really didnt care for it or for V) was very well written. My issue is the lack of variety and quality of life features to helo make NC feel more alive. Luckily i was able to mod it into a 10/10 but i understand that modding is a niche concept and most are gonna have to experience CP as it is which imo is highly lacking in the departments ive stated.

There really isn't any excuse other then that the dev team was forced to rush the game into launch(which is basically what happened).

Also, Im taking a shot in the dark when i say this next statement but im pretty sure W3 had their first major DLC out by now. They were more so expansions then just DLC so its really hard not to hold CP to that same standard and expect W3 quality/quantity when the launch their upcoming DLC(hopefully expansion)

[Zero McDol]

I agree and also rate the vanilla game at about a 7/10.

For me, I can say that the vanilla game isn't for me, due to me being a sandbox player and not having much sand to play with in this game. All good . This in a sense though, is why I literally need mods to enjoy this game.

Now don't get me wrong, what's in the vanilla game is great and enjoyable, but it mostly covers elements that are secondary to what I look for for enjoyment in a game.

[Mr_Blank]

I always described cyberpunk 2077 like this to someone who is asking if it’s worth buying it:


Cyberpunk 2077 was not the game CDPR led us to believe it was. Despite this, it has a captivating story, beautiful world, good combat system when mixed with the cyberware (guns and melee alone is stale) and some amazing immersive storytelling and gameplay mechanics.

[heof1letter]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

I always described cyberpunk 2077 like this to someone who is asking if it’s worth buying it:


Cyberpunk 2077 was not the game CDPR led us to believe it was. Despite this, it has a captivating story, beautiful world, good combat system when mixed with the cyberware (guns and melee alone is stale) and some amazing immersive storytelling and gameplay mechanics.

I agree with this. I picked it up for 50% off after I finished the Edgerunners series, and I had an amazing experience, and the fact that I hadn't gotten involved with the hype pre-release contributed. If you spend two, five, or god forbid seven years salivating over a game before it's out, that can ONLY end in disappointment.

[EGGZxOVERxExZ]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

I agree and also rate the vanilla game at about a 7/10.

For me, I can say that the vanilla game isn't for me, due to me being a sandbox player and not having much sand to play with in this game. All good . This in a sense though, is why I literally need mods to enjoy this game.

Now don't get me wrong, what's in the vanilla game is great and enjoyable, but it mostly covers elements that are secondary to what I look for for enjoyment in a game.

Yeah :/ Unless the upcoming DLC is free or its on the lvl of the witcher 3's expansions in terms of depth and content, i probably wont be returning to NC.

[Mr_Blank]

Originally posted by heof1letter:

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

I always described cyberpunk 2077 like this to someone who is asking if it’s worth buying it:


Cyberpunk 2077 was not the game CDPR led us to believe it was. Despite this, it has a captivating story, beautiful world, good combat system when mixed with the cyberware (guns and melee alone is stale) and some amazing immersive storytelling and gameplay mechanics.

I agree with this. I picked it up for 50% off after I finished the Edgerunners series, and I had an amazing experience, and the fact that I hadn't gotten involved with the hype pre-release contributed. If you spend two, five, or god forbid seven years salivating over a game before it's out, that can ONLY end in disappointment.

That’s the exact same thing that happened to me LMAOOOO. I had zero interest about cyberpunk when it was being hyped, mainly because I knew my laptop would never run it. I watched the series, cried my ass out, and then Played the game.

Weirdly enough I think the game speaks more to me than the anime, mainly because I found Maine incredibly one note and only likeable for one episode, kiwi was such an obvious twist that it hurt, I can’t name a single thing Gloria or Pilar said other than the penis joke that got Pilar killed, and, gonna hate me for this, I didn’t enjoy Rebecca until after the timeskip. The main things I loved were scheming ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Faraday, and the relationship between Lucy and David. Oh and falco was cool.

I connected with Vs struggle, Johnny’s redemption, Panam’s struggle for a voice, Judy’s grief and abandonment issues, and literally everything Jackie and Takemura related, way quicker than I did with edgerunners. Overall the anime is a much better experience animation wise, song wise and especially action wise, but I personally enjoy 2077s narrative way more.


I’m thinking of doing a full analysis video on 2077 in the late future, deep diving into every important character and the main plots and themes.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by EGGZOVERxExZ:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

I agree and also rate the vanilla game at about a 7/10.

For me, I can say that the vanilla game isn't for me, due to me being a sandbox player and not having much sand to play with in this game. All good . This in a sense though, is why I literally need mods to enjoy this game.

Now don't get me wrong, what's in the vanilla game is great and enjoyable, but it mostly covers elements that are secondary to what I look for for enjoyment in a game.

Yeah :/ Unless the upcoming DLC is free or its on the lvl of the witcher 3's expansions in terms of depth and content, i probably wont be returning to NC.

I feel you. I'll grab it just to complete the game, probably on sale since I'm not feeling the 60 that I paid for the base game.

[Bahamut_A6M5]

I have to go with ShelLuser. I have already done six playthroughs and all have been vanilla, with no mods.

In fact, I don't think game even needs some of the mods OP mentions. Metro/urban bus is there; it's the fast travel option for CP2077. So, what's the point on having a "fast travel" option that has you locked sightseeing the city for several minutes as you travel in a metro wagon? Game has cars and bikes for you to drive and waste travel time; fast travelling in metro as is in the game is logical. That mod "enabling" metro travel basically defeats the reason for fast travel.

The same goes for interacting with most street vendors. There's a reason why CDPR did not make them interactive; they basically sell trash and junk they scavenge from waste. Chances they might have something useful is minimally slim. The mod giving interaction with them basically fakes the whole immersion feeling by giving them an actual usefulness (which, by the way, they aren't supposed to have). Even if someone would argue they can be used for selling loot, chances are they wouldn't buy it: they are there for selling their trash and making a buck for themselves, and they probably wouldn't have the cash to pay you for most toys V ends lugging around.

Food and animation. Totally unneeded feature. What CP2077 needs for buffing isn't food nor drinks, but rather drugs. You want an edge in combat? You use combat drugs (and pay the price), not eat a hamburger and get a regen bonus or drink a cola and get a stamina recovery bonus.

[ShelLuser]

Originally posted by EGGZOVERxExZ:

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

Interesting take, I do ahree that cyberpunk overall is a bit weaker than Witcher 3 both narrative and gameplay wise.

This game is THE example as to why you should never rush your games.

I think that was No Mans Sky ;) See, unlike you I can actually come up with arguments instead of cheap insults whenever someone's opinion doesn't match mine. Which makes me wonder if you're merely looking to argue for the sake of argueing.

So yah, if you don't like the game as-is then that's on you. Quite frankly I think it's rather obvious and hilarious to read your rant because you ignore one small yet very crucial issue here: mods don't fix stuff in this game, at best you get cosmetic fixes, but that's it.

Ergo: you're still playing with this "bad bug ridden game" you're going on about where more mods only give you more possibilities for issues to show up, also because not every mod works well together with others.

For the record, I'm talking about stuff like this:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

An unofficial patch that actually fixes issues gameplay issues, I quote: "Hundreds of gameplay, quest, NPC, object, item, text and placement bugs fixed.". You won't find that for CP2k77, yet. Something which Nexus clearly showcases: the most popular mods for CP are either cosmetic fixes or frameworks which several other mods use.

Which, in the end, boils down to mods only adding extra features to the game. Heck, there aren't even mods that give us new missions to do (though photomode unlocker comes very close by allowing you to set up your own encounters).