1.7 (2.0) patch notes question

[.Esík]

Okay i dont know if I ever played game that promised to completely change all of the base systems. The closest i know is no man sky but they added so much stuff, not changed old one. How will patch notes looks like when update drops? It will be like 3 pages long text on CDPR forum or? They have to list every single change made to the game right?

[Silverbane7]

No, but many do list a lot of changes.
Some say 'stability and gameplay changes' *looking at you, Nintendo lol

They usually name quest/bug fixes by quest name, and then give the fix info.
Often, companies list things in chunks, like quest, bug, gameplay, character class, Páve, PvP, ect.

I'm sure the YouTubers will offer a TLDR summary for everyone

[Hellfire77]

3 pages long is probably a bit of a lowball guess honestly. CDPR patch notes are generally pretty detailed.

[Draconifors]

Patch 1.3 had such massive patch notes that the Steam version of the news consists of two threads, and the CDPR forum version is like half a mile long. Yet there were changes that were not listed, just like with probably every bigger patch. That's been the case with their other games as well.

At least one update post said they wanted some changes/additions to be a surprise, and therefore did not list them.

[easy_going]

Here's a real kicker though: some people claim that the game never had any bugs, even on launch. :D

[Revan619]

Originally posted by easy_going:

Here's a real kicker though: some people claim that the game never had any bugs, even on launch. :D

people on up to date systems didnt run into many if any. Tended to be people running on stone age systems and last gen consoles that had most of the issues

[-|Nur|-]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Originally posted by easy_going:

Here's a real kicker though: some people claim that the game never had any bugs, even on launch. :D

people on up to date systems didnt run into many if any. Tended to be people running on stone age systems and last gen consoles that had most of the issues

Oh please. The game's performance was good even on Ultra but it was filled with bugs and glitches.

[Azrael]

Originally posted by easy_going:

Here's a real kicker though: some people claim that the game never had any bugs, even on launch. :D

I replayed the entire game 3 times already, and the biggest bug i encountered was the naked T pose V did on bikes and cars while driving, and an unfinished gig which made me unable to get my Heywood achievement, nothing else. Not a single game breaking bug ever.

[easy_going]

Let me put it this way: if the game has no bugs, why does it have such extensive patch notes?

Go look up patch notes for each major patch released over last two years. Read what kinds of issues the game still had a year later.
Not only issues related to gameplay and open world nature of the game, but story and quests related ones.

The game is significantly shorter than Witcher 3, its in no way more non-linear than The Witcher 3, and yet quality control of CDPR let so many issues slip through.

[N o d L]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Originally posted by easy_going:

Here's a real kicker though: some people claim that the game never had any bugs, even on launch. :D

people on up to date systems didnt run into many if any. Tended to be people running on stone age systems and last gen consoles that had most of the issues

As someone with a very up to date system on release it was virtually impossible to not run into a bug or anything constnatly

[Azrael]

Originally posted by easy_going:

Let me put it this way: if the game has no bugs, why does it have such extensive patch notes?

Go look up patch notes for each major patch released over last two years. Read what kinds of issues the game still had a year later.
Not only issues related to gameplay and open world nature of the game, but story and quests related ones.

The game is significantly shorter than Witcher 3, its in no way more non-linear than The Witcher 3, and yet quality control of CDPR let so many issues slip through.

I said i never encountered any game breaking bug, that is, that prevents you from finishing missions or continuing the game. Specific scenarios where you use mantis blades in a 45° rotation hitting a truck in a specific way at midnight night causing your nose to fall off is not something average players do. You sir are specifically searching for bugs to vent on the forums because you just don't want to enjoy playing this game. Simple as that. Patch notes are usually filled with fixes that are not game breaking bugs but mild inconveniences.

[easy_going]

Originally posted by LORd_RiVE:

I said i never encountered any game breaking bug, that is, that prevents you from finishing missions or continuing the game. Specific scenarios where you use mantis blades in a 45° rotation hitting a truck in a specific way at midnight night causing your nose to fall off is not something average players do. You sir are specifically searching for bugs to vent on the forums because you just don't want to enjoy playing this game. Simple as that. Patch notes are usually filled with fixes that are not game breaking bugs but mild inconveniences.

When it comes to technical side of things, a true metric of quality is the amount of effort you have to put into a game in order to cause a bug.

In case of Cyberpunk you don't have to put any effort whatsoever, and that's the real problem. You can try your hardest to avoid problematic situations but the game will glitch out anyways. Cyberpunk glitches out during cutscenes you have no control over. That's actually pretty good example because if you DID have control, maybe you'd be able to steer the events on screen to actively prevent the bug from occurring.

And that's very telling on level of quality of Cyberpunk: you as a player have to ACTIVELY keep an eye for potential bugs occurrences, and do everything you can to prevent them from happening. Oh, this character is clearly walking straight into that post, I'm gonna steer him carefully away with my body so he won't ram into it. My car will probably spawn in this place incorrectly, I'm gonna move a bit further away so it won't explode. I'll wait for this group of NPCs to move over before talking to quest giver, otherwise they will get trapped in the cutscene. Etc etc etc.

I never actively try to break games I play, because i want to have the best possible experience. I am usually very proactive and very conscious of games technological limitations. Unfortunately Cyberpunk is so unstable and gives you so little control in "live-action" cutscenes that it's virtually impossible to avoid bugs. And they are indeed game-breaking, but not in "the game caused my PC to explode and raped my cat" kind of way.