Phantom Liberty timeline (SPOILER ALERT)

[Goran]

Since in the teaser you can hear Silverhands voice, does this mean Phantom Liberty takes place during the main game questline? I am a bit comfused to be honest.

[wardenwolf]

Considering one of the endings is a self-delete, the DLC will obviously take place during the game.

[Ogami]

Will definitely be set during the main campaign considering most of the endings of the game end with V being dead or leaving the city, either as themselves or as Johnny in V´s body

[Goran]

Originally posted by wardenwolf:

Considering one of the endings is a self-delete, the DLC will obviously take place during the game.

Too bad. I hoped for finding a cure for V and a "Happy End" as in Withcre 3 but I guess the lore and world of Cyberpunk in general does not really support happy ends

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Goran:

Too bad. I hoped for finding a cure for V and a "Happy End" as in Withcre 3 but I guess the lore and world of Cyberpunk in general does not really support happy ends

I mean, this is not mutually exclusive. The Phantom Liberty DLC could unlock another ending for the main campaign if you finish it.
That would actually be a great reason to replay the game.

[EJR]

Originally posted by Goran:

Originally posted by wardenwolf:

Considering one of the endings is a self-delete, the DLC will obviously take place during the game.

Too bad. I hoped for finding a cure for V and a "Happy End" as in Withcre 3 but I guess the lore and world of Cyberpunk in general does not really support happy ends

The thing is with the overall atmosphere and general storytelling of Night City, or the series of Cyberpunk, is that very, very few often get happy endings in this city and that is often the elite of the elite, or those who are extremely lucky. Everyone else get ♥♥♥♥ endings, or tolerable bad endings at best. If happy endings were easy to get then David and the rest of the Edgerunners crew (Who were still alive in the last episode) would have gotten happy ending in the anime.

Though a "happy end" would have been a good, secret ending for the base game that is hard to get or something.

[ShadowSplit]

I hope CDPR offer a new ending where you can keep your V alive. These endings are not satifying to me. As soon as I found out V has only one way out, quicker or slower, I lost the desire to play and finish the story. Most of the time I just photoshoot or just aimlessly roaming the city.

[Goran]

I hope for a new ending. Just like they did it in Witcher 3 in Toussaint.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Originally posted by ShadowSplit:

I hope CDPR offer a new ending where you can keep your V alive. These endings are not satifying to me. As soon as I found out V has only one way out, quicker or slower, I lost the desire to play and finish the story. Most of the time I just photoshoot or just aimlessly roaming the city.

Not everything has a happy ending in the world. Alot of stories from the greek for example, were tradegies. Even shakespear wrote alot of tradegies. It is only nowadays that "happy endings" have become the norm. I even remember reading a article from a director saying that there are too many happy ending movies nowadays and not enough tradegy movies. At least the menu was sorta a tradegy movie last year.

Well there is one solution. Someone can mod in a happy ending, like the happy ending mod for mass effect 3 someone made. Modders could probably do it.

https://www.denofgeek.com/games/mass-effect-3-happy-ending-mod-story-explained-download/

[luther84695]

The Arasaka ending is not really an ending, and I hope they give it an ending. V should get a new android body and live just like ghost in the shell and starts a new adventure (implying sequel).

[ShadowSplit]

Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:

Not everything has a happy ending in the world. Alot of stories from the greek for example, were tradegies. Even shakespear wrote alot of tradegies. It is only nowadays that "happy endings" have become the norm. I even remember reading a article from a director saying that there are too many happy ending movies nowadays and not enough tradegy movies. At least the menu was sorta a tradegy movie last year.

Well there is one solution. Someone can mod in a happy ending, like the happy ending mod for mass effect 3 someone made. Modders could probably do it.

https://www.denofgeek.com/games/mass-effect-3-happy-ending-mod-story-explained-download/

You know, every counter argument on my comment about giving an option in game that relies on... well, options ends up the same - Not everything has a happy ending. First of all, the game has 5 endings and none of which gives you a chance to have a different outcome. By different I mean an opportunity to survive. You can die sooner, a slightly later and later with some chance you might not die (but you probably die off screen). I mean, why would your choice matter if the end game is only one?

People complained about Mass Effect 3 because Bioware basically spat on every player that invested hundreds of hours (like me) to, in three games, create a team to fight The Reapers. In Mass Effect 2 your decision make or break your team. You need to do things properly to keep them all alive. From which team member you send where to how you behave yourself towards them.

Mods are not a solution, but enhancement of an experience. In this case they alter the story in a way that is not made by the original creators and that makes it a fanfiction, which is OK, but a moot point within this problem.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by ShadowSplit:

You know, every counter argument on my comment about giving an option in game that relies on... well, options ends up the same - Not everything has a happy ending. First of all, the game has 5 endings and none of which gives you a chance to have a different outcome. By different I mean an opportunity to survive. You can die sooner, a slightly later and later with some chance you might not die (but you probably die off screen). I mean, why would your choice matter if the end game is only one?

Well, if we want to get REALLY technical then V is already dead when most of the endings occur.
The V we play throughout the game dies the moment the "Soul Killer" program is used on them.
The V after that is just a Engram Copy of the original V, same as Johnny Silverhand.
So the V that returns for those "6 months to live" is a copy to begin with.

The exception are the " side with Arasaka" ending where the chip gets removed by their techs and the " storm Arasaka solo with Johnny and kill everyone" ending.
That V is still the real V at the end but will still die soon.

So yeah, another secret ending coming with Phantom Liberty, maybe where the chip can be removed successfully would not be bad.
Does not even have to be a super happy end, just let V get away with their life and nothing else. Still broke, still a nobody, still a Night City bottom feeder.

Would be in line with the other endings, exchanged possible fame/love/wealth for your life and nothing else.

[Goran]

Originally posted by luther84695:

The Arasaka ending is not really an ending, and I hope they give it an ending. V should get a new android body and live just like ghost in the shell and starts a new adventure (implying sequel).

Thats another big question. Will Cyberpunk 2078 or however they call it be with V as the main protagonist? Or will we have a new one? I hope for V.

[Mander]

Originally posted by Goran:

Originally posted by luther84695:

The Arasaka ending is not really an ending, and I hope they give it an ending. V should get a new android body and live just like ghost in the shell and starts a new adventure (implying sequel).

Thats another big question. Will Cyberpunk 2078 or however they call it be with V as the main protagonist? Or will we have a new one? I hope for V.

I think V may appear in a sequel, but it will hardly be the MC. Maybe we could find a legendary set "inspired" to V or something similar... the problem with this idea is that no V is "canon" afaik.

The "Implications" on how the relic works, suggest that to have a "happy ending", V would need a cloned body of themselves (preferably before Relic Implantation, because of the risks of rejection), and a relic with their original bio-signature encoded (or a brand new one) to transfer their engram to. Put all of this together and V technically survives as a copy successfully transferred.
But you need a lot of tech, money, and resources to pull this off in a believable way, even in 2077 Cyberpunk. Yes, we’ve the technical schematics thanks to Hellman, but who will realize it for us? And what price will be asked?

[AlexSledge]

Suicide ending - been shot in the head before and came back, so...
Alt being able to re-populate bodies opens plenty. If they toss in cloning, possibilities are endless.

But...
There are no happy endings in Cyberpunk.

"Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration." - Mike Pondsmith

[ShadowSplit]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Well, if we want to get REALLY technical then V is already dead when most of the endings occur.
The V we play throughout the game dies the moment the "Soul Killer" program is used on them.
The V after that is just a Engram Copy of the original V, same as Johnny Silverhand.
So the V that returns for those "6 months to live" is a copy to begin with.

The exception are the " side with Arasaka" ending where the chip gets removed by their techs and the " storm Arasaka solo with Johnny and kill everyone" ending.
That V is still the real V at the end but will still die soon.

So yeah, another secret ending coming with Phantom Liberty, maybe where the chip can be removed successfully would not be bad.
Does not even have to be a super happy end, just let V get away with their life and nothing else. Still broke, still a nobody, still a Night City bottom feeder.

Would be in line with the other endings, exchanged possible fame/love/wealth for your life and nothing else.

That's kinda my point. There is no choice or at least satisfactory one. Like for example Dragon Age: Orgins. Or Mass Effect 2. Or Deus Ex Human Revolution. Choices matter.

I assume many players wish for an option to create their own destiny for V but for it to counts. Not being forced in one way to nowhere.

Originally posted by AlexSledge:

"Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration." - Mike Pondsmith

We are already in cyberpunk world. So I guess when you make the world desirable, people will natural aspire to it.