EA and Ubisoft get a constant free pass but not CDPR?

[Pushpin]

TW3 has been and will always be a great RPG. Yes the hype train and the launch was screwed up. but how big is CDPR compared to EA and Ubisoft? Those 2 giants release buggy games or the same exact game a year later just a new "paint job" with nothing new or its the same damn game. Ubisoft has only 3 games. assassin's creed, fry cry, and rainbow (which is decent). they do nothing to make a better game just to get cash.

P.S. Vahalla is just game with "filler content" no same game diff setting. Black Flag was the last good Assassin's creed series

[Valec]

Publicado originalmente por Nick:

EA and Ubisoft always have been criticized. Fact, in my case, I never bought or even played Ubisoft games until last year because the public opinion on those were mostly "buggy mess/poorly optimized/uninspired/generic/copy paste game".

And only game franchise fans(like AC/FC og fans since the very first couple of games) would truly argue that their games are genuinely good and even them some still recognize any major issues. As for EA, only 12 yo Fifa/Battlefield fans will defend them, everyone else with a fully functional brain despise them and will never expect anything from them ever again.


As for CDPR, W3 was no masterpiece, not at launch and not today. Because even now you can still encounter a near gamebreaking bug, regular bugs, invisible walks, clunky movement, mediocre gameplay and more. That game, is all about the beautiful visuals, the characters and story. Everything else about is not that big of a deal. Nothing that hasn't been done before or after at same quality or even better than Witcher 3. It can be a good game, but an overrated one still because it simply isn't as good as most you say and want to believe it is. Statement = objective > opinion = subjective

You lost me at Witcher 3 is no masterpiece. It most certainly is. Opinions are, of course, subjective, however yours is in a rather small minority. I didn't even finish the game, but I can recognize how great of a game it really is.

[CatraGirl]

Publicado originalmente por Valec:

Publicado originalmente por Nick:

EA and Ubisoft always have been criticized. Fact, in my case, I never bought or even played Ubisoft games until last year because the public opinion on those were mostly "buggy mess/poorly optimized/uninspired/generic/copy paste game".

And only game franchise fans(like AC/FC og fans since the very first couple of games) would truly argue that their games are genuinely good and even them some still recognize any major issues. As for EA, only 12 yo Fifa/Battlefield fans will defend them, everyone else with a fully functional brain despise them and will never expect anything from them ever again.


As for CDPR, W3 was no masterpiece, not at launch and not today. Because even now you can still encounter a near gamebreaking bug, regular bugs, invisible walks, clunky movement, mediocre gameplay and more. That game, is all about the beautiful visuals, the characters and story. Everything else about is not that big of a deal. Nothing that hasn't been done before or after at same quality or even better than Witcher 3. It can be a good game, but an overrated one still because it simply isn't as good as most you say and want to believe it is. Statement = objective > opinion = subjective

You lost me at Witcher 3 is no masterpiece. It most certainly is. Opinions are, of course, subjective, however yours is in a rather small minority. I didn't even finish the game, but I can recognize how great of a game it really is.

Yup. The only reason I don't replay The Witcher 3 more, is that I can't stand Geralt lol. But man, the writing in that game is sooooooo good (Cyberpunk too though), music is great, characters are interesting and well-written and I also actually enjoyed the combat a lot, which for some reason get's a lot of hate, which I really don't understand...

[Valec]

Publicado originalmente por JocularJosh:

Publicado originalmente por Valec:

You lost me at Witcher 3 is no masterpiece. It most certainly is. Opinions are, of course, subjective, however yours is in a rather small minority. I didn't even finish the game, but I can recognize how great of a game it really is.

Even most people who liked Witcher 3 don't call it a masterpiece.
It has way too many flaws for that.

Being a masterpiece doesn't mean it's absolutely without flaws.

[CatraGirl]

Publicado originalmente por Valec:

Publicado originalmente por JocularJosh:

Even most people who liked Witcher 3 don't call it a masterpiece.
It has way too many flaws for that.

Being a masterpiece doesn't mean it's absolutely without flaws.

This. I would call Vampire Bloodlines a masterpiece for its atmosphere and world-building alone and that game has more flaws than anything lol.

[CatraGirl]

Publicado originalmente por JocularJosh:

Publicado originalmente por Valec:

Being a masterpiece doesn't mean it's absolutely without flaws.

Never said it shouldn't have any flaws.
Just that it has too many.

Like?
Can't think of that many tbh, only one maybe how all the gear except Witcher gear is practically trash loot, but apart from that?

[Sep]

Publicado originalmente por Pushpin:

Black Flag was the last good Assassin's creed series

Rogue*

[SuperFly]

Don't feed the t̶r̶o̶l̶l̶s̶ firm-financed smear-shills!

[Pushpin]

i dont buy sony or microsoft excuse either.... giants in the industry and they couldnt get their hands on a single ps4 or xbox1 copy? i call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that.

[Garviel Loken]

EA has been named one of the most evil companies over and over again. I don't think they get a pass.

[JerBeware]

Publicado originalmente por Pushpin:

TW3 has been and will always be a great RPG. Yes the hype train and the launch was screwed up. but how big is CDPR compared to EA and Ubisoft? Those 2 giants release buggy games or the same exact game a year later just a new "paint job" with nothing new or its the same damn game. Ubisoft has only 3 games. assassin's creed, fry cry, and rainbow (which is decent). they do nothing to make a better game just to get cash.

P.S. Vahalla is just game with "filler content" no same game diff setting. Black Flag was the last good Assassin's creed series

I don't think any company deserves nor should they get a free pass. EA has been considered one of the worst companies in the entire US and made that list for years. Ubisoft similarly gets a lot of negative feedback... Similarly, Paradox is in the same boat, with known bug issues, then tons of DLC.

Given the above, I'm not sure why any company should be getting a free pass, let alone CDPR. If you make statements like 'we'll release it when it's ready', market the game the way they did, etc. - they deserved what they got. You reap what you sow.

Not going to be a blind consumer. That being said I think the game is OK, even great at times. But any negativity they rightfully brought on themselves.

[CatraGirl]

Publicado originalmente por JocularJosh:

Publicado originalmente por Jill Sandwich:

Like?
Can't think of that many tbh, only one maybe how all the gear except Witcher gear is practically trash loot, but apart from that?

I had a gamebreaking bug that prevented me from continuing the story which is why I never finished it.
That was enough for me.

But of course this is all highly subjective, I just don't think it deserves to be called a masterpiece.

Well and lots of people would disagree with you.
And I never had any game-breaking bugs, so I can't really say anything about that, but every game has bugs at release and afaik they fixed all the game-breaking ones.
And technical issues is hardly something people take into consideration when talking about a game being a masterpiece, unless the game is truly broken. I mean, again, I consider Bloodlines a masterpiece and that game has been getting fan-patches for over a decade, because it was so broken...

[Blackmage]

Don't forget Bethesda and Activision. They suck too.

[Friends with Benedicts]

I'm baffled at the number of people who thinks a FIFA franchise is more justified than c77

They even forgot to take out older logos from their games, that goes to show how little work was put into simple asset recycling.

But no, cyberpunk is worse.

Yeah right, you're not even fooling yourselves. Plain trolling.

[Valec]

Publicado originalmente por SuperFly:

Don't feed the t̶r̶o̶l̶l̶s̶ firm-financed smear-shills!

It's so tiring seeing people call anyone with a different opinion a shill. You're just going to have to live with the fact that some people feel differently than you, instead of trying to shut down debate by calling people shills.

[Valec]

Publicado originalmente por JocularJosh:

Publicado originalmente por Jill Sandwich:

Well and lots of people would disagree with you.

And lots of people would agree with me. That is not really an argument.

Again, this is all highly subjective.

It is, actually. Because The Witcher 3 is almost universally accepted as a masterpiece. Opinions are, again, subjective, but yours is not a popular one.