Build 42 weight loss

[bc02]

I've just hit 2 months into my playthrough on 42 and my character is down to 51 weight despite eating a whole chicken everyday (sometimes more) plus eggs. I've been trying to just stay in my cabin and read books and eat to gain weight but it's still declining. I don't have the fast metabolism trait, hearty appetite or any negative food traits. Only high thirst.
On 41 it did not decrease this fast and i shouldn't be losing 1kg a day while staying stuffed all day. I know chicken isn't that fatty in real life but a full chicken contains around 55g of fat and 2 eggs containing around 10g of fat which is enough to sustain most grown adults nevermind a 51kg character in game. Maybe i'm looking in to it too much but i'm going to die of weight loss at this rate and my food options are limited as i have all foods on extremely rare and i've looted pretty much everything around me.
I started with the very low weight trait but i didn't think it would be this bad, gaining weight wasn't this much of an issue before

[Aftermath_FIN]

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I ate only eggs on daily basis and my weight slowly went down until point i started losing health? It happened quite fast i didnt realise i shoulda have debug mode on to see what is causing health lose. it was not infection sickness etc since those give some indicators. this was just out of blue :(

Once your weight depletes to a certain point you start dying like in real life if you're extremely underweight. My character is almost at that point as well lol

yeah i woulda wanted to have some kinda notification of it. next time my player lives from LARD :D :D

[katsuragi]

I'm using the same tactics I did in 41 and seeing the same results. I make stews with dried beans and meat, add butter and lard if I have it. I eat cereal, chocolate bars, and peanut butter when I'm out doing stuff.

When I see that my weight has an ^ next to it, I eat salads made of forage foods until it goes away. (and only when I get hunger moodle)

When I see a <down arrow> by my weight, I keep eating high calorie stuff until it goes away.

It seems no different than what I did in 41

If I were playing with rare loot and all that, I'd be fishing for high calorie fish to gain weight and eating the same forage salads when losing weight is needed.

[Keiskay]

literally just milk cows, turn the milk into butter and get as fat as you want as butter is currently broken calorie wise, turn .5litres of milk into a 3200 calorie bar of fat.

[Mister]

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Thanks for trying to help but i'm not new. I've spent plenty time on this game to know something has went wrong with this update as all previous builds never had an issue maintaining weight like this especially with no negative hunger traits.I previously stated in my comment above that a whole chicken contains almost 2000 calories so that's definitely not an issue in that regard, especially when only weighing 51kg in game which isn't even the average weight of a regular man. 2000+ calories is more than enough to maintain that weight.
I know 42 obviously isn't finished yet so this is subject to change, i'm just stating that i've noticed a stark difference in weight depletion. It's just pretty annoying spending 90% of your time gathering food and staying inactive to eat while still losing weight.
Fish is definitely the way to go but i don't have the knowledge to fix and create rods and it seems they've removed spear fishing entirely.

Skill issue then. I haven't run any tests, but 42 seems similar in that regard, buddy.
Look at your mods, maybe.
I'm killing the entire Rosewood population in my game, by melee combat for now, and I'm gaining weight, so...

[Quineloe]

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a whole chicken a day won;t help much (Only ~300 calories) try finding a couple of cows, and turn the milk into butter(2000 calories)

A whole chicken contains almost 2000 calories irl. 2 eggs also 156 calories by estimate.
That is enough to maintain weight at 51kg. I weigh more than that in real life and eat about the same per day in calories. I think there's something wrong.

That's your problem. PZ calories don't take your current weight into account, they always assume you're at 250kg for your calorie consumption rate. Which is why you're probably always deep in the negative calories range even after eating.

[sebkarlsson]

OP you're not alone. I'm 1600hrs of playtime and imo, when build 41 has you gain weight as soon as you eat a steak, in 42 eating chickens all day at 110 -hunger and pork steaks, the idea would not be to be constantly losing weight, let alone keeping it level. No doubt this will be re-balanced down the line. We hope

[Armagenesis]

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OP you're not alone. I'm 1600hrs of playtime and imo, when build 41 has you gain weight as soon as you eat a steak, in 42 eating chickens all day at 110 -hunger and pork steaks, the idea would not be to be constantly losing weight, let alone keeping it level. No doubt this will be re-balanced down the line. We hope

This same complaint has been going on since b41 tho? At least after the devs "rebalanced" calorie consumption for walking.

[Andy Mil]

I saw one of mod fix chicken cal. It giving you very tiny and I think you need like over 3000 everyday. You can do this with eat alot of veggie or easier is fishing after you super high skill you will caught thing easily in right time of day.

Another way is trapping but that very slow as well but can guarantee you caught something if you check in every 2 hours or 1 and be away about certain block away i dont really remember but i used to live in farm house close to forest cross the main road. I cross road and check trap once every few hours and got meat.

[J128MM]

As an example, Let's say I've stored 10000 calories in the freezer in the form of chickens. I've also gathered fattening ingredients like butter, lard, oils. I could spend a lot of time cooking chickens, eating chickens, and eventually running out of food. Or I can decide to gain weight by making stew out of those chickens and adding a fattening ingredient like butter to the mix of chicken and vegetables, and eating only that. I can then decide to maintain weight by making stew and not adding a fattening ingredient like butter to the mix.

I could also eat the butter but that's a waste. If you totalled up the calorie count of all the ingredients that go into the stew mix, you'll always end up with far more calories preparing and making stew. These numbers aren't accurate but the results are similar. Let's say you deduct 300 calories from the butter by adding it to stew. Let's say the stew mix before adding butter was 500 calories. There's a strong chance after adding 300 calories worth of butter to 500 calories worth of stew, you'll end up with more than 800 calories.

I did the same in build 41 but used rabbits instead. Same results. And when I didn't have fattening ingredients, I'd add high fat fish to the rabbits and vegetables. Much like rabbits, not every chicken is the same size.

Another example. Can sit there and eat radishes nonstop, 1 calorie at a time. Or you can use less time preparing a salad with six radishes. At that point you already have more than six calories. Add mayo, now you have 250 calories. You'd end up with fewer total calories eating the radishes alone and the mayo alone.

I have several cuts of pork, several chickens, and a few freezers full of vegetables. I won't be cooking or eating any of that individually. It's all ingredients headed for the pot. Do I want to gain weight? If the answer is yes, I'll add butter, lard, or oil to the mix. If the answer is no, I'll leave those out and save them for when the answer is yes. Can fit at least 5 pots of stew in the oven, cook it all at once, separate it into bowls of stew that go to the fridge and freezer for later.

Perfected this strategy in build 41. Carried it over to build 42 and have not noticed a difference, aside from there being far more food options in 42, and a near endless supply of butter, making b42 much easier. Hunger is always satisfied, gaining or maintaining weight is a simple yes or no decision, and it's very difficult to run out of food. Haven't even touched my beans yet.

[Dumbledood]

Does the game take into account how many calories you burn in a day? I can see how if you were carrying extremely heavy amounts of stuff, and swinging a crowbar at zombies all day, you'd burn an insane number of calories. But on the other hand, sitting in your house reading, very little, other than BMR (higher if you're denser). That starts to get pretty complicated though to replicate.

I just started in B42 and have noticed things seem to be rarer, especially food and cigs. Haven't had much of a problem yet, but I'm basically just running house to house all the time, smashing zombies, eating, making little loot piles, and staying on the move, until I find electronics books or gen plans. Though my guy is fiending for cigs, and jumpy as hell since I can't find any. Lol.

Sort of sounds like we both took traits that hurt if you can't find something, and the loot rates were lowered for both.

[Destructomonkey]

Maybe you could just item spawn in 50 sticks of butter and add butter to literally every meal you make, but then eat 'normally' without trying to specifically fight the strange calorie dynamic in this update, and weight would be easier to maintain?

[Vardos]

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a whole chicken a day won;t help much (Only ~300 calories) try finding a couple of cows, and turn the milk into butter(2000 calories)

A whole chicken contains almost 2000 calories irl. 2 eggs also 156 calories by estimate.
That is enough to maintain weight at 51kg. I weigh more than that in real life and eat about the same per day in calories. I think there's something wrong.

It comes down to the devs misunderstanding calorie consumption by the body per day. Roughly 2/3rds of the calories that are consumed per day come from automatic processes only 1/3rd of our calories is actually dictated by physical activity. Thats why you can run for an hour and you'll burn a lot of calories but its no where near enough to reduce one pound by itself.

Like a person working in an active warzone during trench warfare needed 5k calories a day to keep weight. And that was digging trenches, moving, and potentially fighting all day. But in the game if you run around for like 2 hours and fight half a dozen zombies you've used up so many calories you're in debt for weight loss.

As an aside currently the system allows you to gain three pounds and only lose one per day. So you could barely eat for 2 days an then gorge yourself on high calorie nutritious food the third day and take it easy. Not ideal granted but also will help you maintain weight

[Vegas]

The calorific quantity, along with all nutrients are for the most part just flat out wrong for most food items and need revision. Imagine stuffing 4 cabbages, 4 potatoes, 6 eggs, a rabbit and whole chicken per day and then starving to death.

[Pomp And Circumstance]

do fishing and eggs and cook a stir fry with it, i put like 2 pieces of fish and 2 eggs in a stir fry and i've been gaining weight, i was down to 64 and freaking out i'm back up into the 70s and climbing, i feel like fish and eggs are the quickest and easiest food source right now but i could be wrong

[TeddyB]

Pro tip...drink alkohol berore a meal one bottle have something like 2000kcal ten You can eat something to keep hunter balance and when night comes drink. Sweet drinks helps to( regular not diet)