Project Zomboid

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WiseCog Apr 6, 2021 @ 11:10am
Jumping over high fences.
EDIT:
If you are not exerted or tired (or overweight as well I assume), these are the skill requirements for jumping a high fence (holding e).
4 strength, 0 fitness.
0 strength, 4 fitness.
2 strength, 2 fitness.
1 strength, 3 fitness.
3 strength, 1 fitness.
So basically you need 4 in total from strength and fitness together.

That means it will most likely take you a a few weeks before you can jump these fences if you start with 0 in both of these skills. Weak, unfit and very underweight traits.
Last edited by WiseCog; Apr 9, 2021 @ 3:25pm
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iicycube Apr 6, 2021 @ 11:28am 
fitness and strength need to build up alittle for you to climb up.
WiseCog Apr 6, 2021 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by iicycube:
fitness and strength need to build up alittle for you to climb up.

Ok, do you know how much? I can not find this information on the internet.
Sanctus Apr 6, 2021 @ 12:10pm 
It's going to be difficult to find hard numbers on a lot of things. The wiki is out of date and most players aren't tracking their gameplay particularly carefully.
I can say that it's possible to jump a fence at low levels of strength but I don't know that anyone has hard numbers.
For a lot of the stuff you've been asking about you can get a cheat mod and try it out. Nobody else has done any serious stat testing yet for build 41 as far as I know.
Shady Allie Apr 6, 2021 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Sanctus:
...you can get a cheat mod and try it out...

You don't even need a cheat mod. The debug mode console will allow you to test out whatever you want. Every player has access to it just by adding -debug to the command line.

Feel free to test out any stat you want and mess around with traits, levels, items, etc. All of this can be tested in debug mode if you want to figure stuff out or try something out before committing to your actual play.

It is a good tool to figure out exactly what allows fence jumping and when.
Set your strength to 0, try it. Set it to max and set it to middle.
Set your fatigue to max. try it. Etc.
What if you are max inventory weight and try to jump?

Don't be afraid of the debug mode to check stuff out. What would happen if I did X?
Test it out in debug.

I wouldn't run the game I am playing with debug on, it would quickly become unfun (opinion here only - you may find debug mode is okay for you, and that's okay), but I would start a second save for debug testing and checking out the limits on jumping a high fence, totally acceptable and included in the game you bought.
Razz Apr 6, 2021 @ 12:53pm 
what do you mean by high fence exactly, the fences that are taller than you are? because you cant climb those ever.
Last edited by Razz; Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:00pm
Shady Allie Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Lurak:
what do you mean by high fence exactly, the fences that are taller than you are? because you cant climb those ever.

Maybe its a build 41 thing only, I don't know...but you CAN jump high fences in the beta build. Hit E when next to it.

(You will drop any bag equipped in your hand though, which might mean live now without that bag or die by not jumping, and the other side of the fence might not be as green as it looked in the despair of panic)
CptVodka Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:15pm 
I had no idea you even could jump over high fences.. Gotta try that next time i play. Only knew you could jump over the low ones :P
rav Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:16pm 
im not sure but maybe if you try enough times it will eventually work.

sometimes even with 5 fit/str it fails.
WiseCog Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:23pm 
Yes you can jump over high fences at least in beta build. You need to hold e, as if if was a window.

I will try to figure out how to get debug tools to work, that was a good tip @Shady Allie. Thank you people. And you are correct @Sanctus, there are hardly any numbers. It is VERY surprising however since the game is very played by streamers and regular players as well.
WiseCog Apr 6, 2021 @ 1:34pm 
Another question that I was curious about is if Graceful trait will also lower the q-shout voice?
Shady Allie Apr 6, 2021 @ 3:43pm 
to enable debug mode:
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Debug_mode
and see this:
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Startup_parameters

I set a debug shortcut on my desktop for when I feel like playing around with stuff. That way I don't have to keep changing the parameters when I feel like chacking stuff out.
Shady Allie Apr 6, 2021 @ 3:46pm 
Graceful "Makes less noise when moving." -60% noise.

I imagine it applies only to moving your feet and not your vocal chords.

BUT...if you crouch in the beta build 41 and hit Q...you will "whisper"

A good tactic to try to separate one from a bunch that haven't noticed you yet.
rav Apr 6, 2021 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Greenpakto:
Another question that I was curious about is if Graceful trait will also lower the q-shout voice?

if you use shout while crouched it will make less noice, more like a whisper for close range
WiseCog Apr 7, 2021 @ 3:42am 
Thank you for all the help people.
WiseCog Apr 9, 2021 @ 3:01pm 
These are my findings.

If you are not exerted or tired, these are the skill requirements for jumping a high fence (holding e).
4 strength, 0 fitness.
0 strength, 4 fitness.
2 strength, 2 fitness.
1 strength, 3 fitness.
3 strength, 1 fitness.
So basically you need 4 in total from strength and fitness together.
Last edited by WiseCog; Aug 15, 2021 @ 3:43am
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