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Steam's overlay had a large update towards the end of last year and you can set it so that Steam remembers you leaving a discord and DIM tab open so every time the game starts they be logged in and ready go all the time.
Fireteam Finder IS the first party tool. Whilst I prefer the older version myself there's absolutely no reason for Bungie to maintain both of them.
At least as is it isn't being fully implemented as there's no way to juts get a list of all posts in the new Fireteam Finder, you have to go back and forth checking each individual activity.
The new Fireteam Finder is also already being used by sellers and if anything this is worse for the genuine users as it's now practically impossible to identify these posts before you join them.
No, I am talking about them removing the web-based LFG and replacing it with the web-based fireteam finder - the unusable version that exists in game
They are not going to add LFG to the game, they seem content with fireteam finder
None of that is true. Join codes are objectively slower than invite support, and is much higher effort since channels aren't sorted properly, and if you're in 100+ servers like most chronically online individuals, just finding the lfg in the list can be time consuming. Also, web discord is still very slow and bad, and the steam overlay is notorious for security vulnerabilities, so just using the app is better anyway.
As far as player quality, there isn't much of an improvement, there's a pretty equal balance of terrible and good players on both, and that's also unimportant for simple activities like i mentioned. Any clueless player can do a GM, looking for things like challenge runs is better done elsewhere anyway. Also, removing the LFG from the web will force many more players onto the discord, further reducing the player quality, if it was any better before.
Bots can whisper you the ad and then kick you as soon as you join the post, basically the same as the auto dm bots on the bungie website.
My experience with in game lfg is: go through the many menus to find a group and click and it hoping the leader is actually there and bothers to accept my request and then wait for everyone to ready up and then it kicks everyone to orbit and re-adds them and then launches the activity versus just copy pasting a code with people ready to go usually already in the activity with minimal waiting, menus, or loading screens.
I wouldn't know since that's all I use discord for but I'd either suggest grouping servers into folders or start cutting servers you don't actually use.
I won't disagree with there still being bad players and both sides but if someone has bothered to get used to using the d2lfg discord then chances are they're a little more dedicated to being the best they can be rather than the random console blueberries chilling on their couch using whatever build they've been vibing with in low difficulty activities. And leaders are more proactive in ensuring they've got good players since its so easy and fast to replace people with a join code rather than go through fireteam finder again.
I have only used fireteam finder exactly once to test it, and indeed this is the exact experience. It's unbelievably slow and inconvenient. I am talking about the LFG, which has no such problems. You simply join a post, and instantly the host can click invite to invite you. It's functionally identical to the discord version, but completely omits exchanging join codes for direct invites, which is objectively quicker and more convenient in every permutation, especially for closed posts that require a dm rather than a single click. It sounds like you haven't used the LFG
This simply isn't true. There is no meaningful difference in player quality between LFG and discord. There is a massive difference between LFG or discord and fireteam finder, with only incompetent or new players using fireteam finder, though. Also, for every new player who doesn't know about the discord, there's an old player who stopped learning and improving long ago, giving into arrogance and habit, being significantly less useful than a new player willing to learn.
On top of this, cycling players on discord is much harder, since you cannot kick people from the voice channels (that many prefer to use), and after kicking someone, you have done so after actively giving them your discord account, practically inviting creeps and harassment. This actually makes the discord quite a dangerous place, especially for players of frequently targeted groups.
All versions of the game use the same chat system. It allows for clan, fireteam and whisper chats (and maybe one more i forget?) It's standardised and cross platform. You can disable whispers from non-friends or from anyone in settings
It was standardized but then they moved to steam and I think it broke for years there probably until they moved to a unified bungie name system.
Whatever changed, it's been working as it does now since at least 2021, which is when i swapped to PC
Its also in beta for this reason, That is a bug report and a fix away from being in a usable state... But hey, GOOD reason to toss it in the garbage right?
I myself find it useless because of this reason, But I also recognise its a LFG tool and it needs some work. Once its got this work done it will be good.
Oh wait but there is the trash bin. Lets do a *web tool* wtf vs an ingame tool. Ingame is clearly better in all intents and purposes... But you want to hold onto your web tool.
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