Which exotic should be nerfed in pvp?

[BigBallinChester]

Conditional Finality? Jotunn? Wish ender or Lemonarch?

[Verios44]

Lol

Conditional is fine in pvp, it should one shot
Toaster? Just move and your fine
Wish ender, eh give you that one
Le monarch already was nerfed :)

[Doot & Honk, Until It Is Done]

I'm not sure how they would adjust it, but Wishender + Oathkeepers and the ability to indefinitely have wall-hacks is the dumbest, most abject garbage in this game from a PVP standpoint. It's been around for a while, but made more prevalent with the changes to bows in general recently.

It's absolute cancer.

I'm really not sure how they would balance it in the sandbox without making the functionality completely useless where the gimmick is concerned, but it needs to be addressed on some level.

[AloofHermit37]

i dont think ive ever seen someone use wishender in pvp

[Berry]

Originally posted by AloofHermit37:

i dont think ive ever seen someone use wishender in pvp

It's free wallhacks and bows are always annoying to go up against so 1 + 1 = giga annoying.

[AloofHermit37]

who cares if they can see you thru walls tho this isnt csgo, the movement in this game is crazy especially with strand, plus u have a radar anyway

[Mez Koo]

Its just a shotgun, stay out of range.
Its a slow fireball, jump and strafe.
Its just a bow, a slow bow.
Was already nerfed and again, a bow.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by AloofHermit37:

i dont think ive ever seen someone use wishender in pvp

I used it back when it could one shot in momentum and before the void rework with flawless execution, one shots with invisibility and wall hacks were fun.

Also kind of fun in Mayhem with Well of Radiance where it also one shots and you constantly have your well.

[BigBallinChester]

btw I'm talking about ANY exotic in pvp. Not just Conditional finality that needs to be nerfed,etc

[Blue]

jotunn needs a buff if anything

[Bnn1]

Originally posted by BIG GREEN ジ:

jotunn needs a buff if anything

PVE Jötunn surely does, for damn sure even. The strength of it right now, when you compare it to other fusion exotics, makes it a primary ammo weapon, almost. It's weaker than Vex in each and every way, and the only benefit is that you can toast enemies a few times - until out of ammo.

[NationX]

Bungie will never balance PvP. Will always be trash

[Jack the Ripper]

Even if jötunn has a “slow projectile” , In medium range it is still unfair to play against. Specifically if you play titan.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by NationX:

Bungie will never balance PvP. Will always be trash

Name me a continuously updated PvP game that is truly "balanced". It's just not possible, especially at the rate Bunko adds new stuff; a PvE game with a PvP side mode, where all gear is fully shared, is an impossible task to fully balance. Every time they make a good change, the Sisyphus rock rolls down the hill the moment they add new gear. But that's fine, because it's fun, so long as specific problems get tuned (Anteus Wards, YAS).

[Ghost]

last word

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Ghost:

last word

Last Word is one of the least used exotics in PvP. It's decent on controller but really, really fringe on MnK. It's been months if not a year since I've seen one.