Still hunt has actively ruined gambit as a game mode

[KlaireMuwurre :3]

The game mode has been straight up my favorite thing since it was added, as unpopular as that opinion is. I love the idea and execution, the enemy type randomizing so you don't have the same exact game in a row, and it can feel good to get a great invasion or kill an invader before they can do anything.
The problem now is just every single game no matter what you do there will be a Still Hunt Celestial Nighthawk Hunter every single time. There's no real engaging gameplay or interesting interactions when a team can basically two phase their primeval. Games have become so formulaic and it's just sad seeing the exact same build 14 times in a row in one session. Just remove the interactions with nighthawk and Still hunt or remove still hunt from gambit. This thing is actually just broken. I play hunter usually using nighthawk myself since it's my best item I have in terms of stats but I hate this damn gun. I refuse to use the thing until it's given it's deserved nerfs

[Negete]

What's gambit?

[Turtis]

No

[Snarbles]

I love gambit as much as you do. I also use nighthawk and I use this gun.

[KlaireMuwurre :3]

Originally posted by Snarbles:

I love gambit as much as you do. I also use nighthawk and I use this gun.

The big problem though is that basically the game mode is becoming SH + nighthawk hunter and you just win. The damage you get from this combination outpaces everything by miles. It's a joke of an exotic that needs to be gutted to the ground. I may not do high level content much if at all, but from all my understanding if they're gonna keep an option that outpaces everything at this level for long it's going to be causing another kind of "well or kick" mentality.
and having a gun that is at the peak of damage in raids be this common in every single gambit game makes it feel like it's just the same meta build every single game. It's boring now.

[Jagdtiger]

Still hunt brings more to the game than gambit does. Therefore, instead of nerfing still hunt, they should remove the option to play gambit, which would solve the problem of gambit games being ruined by it

[Eriana]

The Strand Titan in question.

[KlaireMuwurre :3]

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

Still hunt brings more to the game than gambit does. Therefore, instead of nerfing still hunt, they should remove the option to play gambit, which would solve the problem of gambit games being ruined by it

You know still hunt is even more damaging to the game outside of gambit right? It is in just about every situation thesingle best exotic weapon for hunter now. Why run anything else other than you think its fun? You're still going to be throwing out heaps of damage eif you use anything else. The dps of still hunt compared to other options is laughable. And despite what you might think gambit is still a pretty active activity regardless of its mixed reception. They already removed escalation protocol. So I'm used to them removing the modes I like most

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by KlaireMurre:

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

Still hunt brings more to the game than gambit does. Therefore, instead of nerfing still hunt, they should remove the option to play gambit, which would solve the problem of gambit games being ruined by it

You know still hunt is even more damaging to the game outside of gambit right? It is in just about every situation thesingle best exotic weapon for hunter now. Why run anything else other than you think its fun? You're still going to be throwing out heaps of damage eif you use anything else. The dps of still hunt compared to other options is laughable. And despite what you might think gambit is still a pretty active activity regardless of its mixed reception. They already removed escalation protocol. So I'm used to them removing the modes I like most

The only things in the entire game that even remotely need competitive DPS for anything other than the fun factor are low mans and contest raids. In all other activities you can just throw on whatever meta-adjacent junk and completely wipe every boss in the game in a single phase. Without still hunt, i'm pretty sure day 1 salvation's edge would literally not have been cleared, and duo witness would also probably be currently impossible, or at least wayyyyyy harder. Even with still hunt, solo witness still isn't possible, so it's really not even that insane, especially when compared to things we've had in the past like original storm grenade spam. The existence and continual development of weapons and strategies to make more difficult challenges possible can only be considered a benefit for the game, while gambit currently only exists to annoy people trying to do pathfinder. Still hunt unironically is more important to the game than the entire gamemode of gambit for the majority of players

[Mez Koo]

Is is any different than Izanagi's Burden for the past 6 years?

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by KlaireMurre:

The game mode has been straight up my favorite thing since it was added, as unpopular as that opinion is. I love the idea and execution, the enemy type randomizing so you don't have the same exact game in a row, and it can feel good to get a great invasion or kill an invader before they can do anything.
The problem now is just every single game no matter what you do there will be a Still Hunt Celestial Nighthawk Hunter every single time. There's no real engaging gameplay or interesting interactions when a team can basically two phase their primeval. Games have become so formulaic and it's just sad seeing the exact same build 14 times in a row in one session. Just remove the interactions with nighthawk and Still hunt or remove still hunt from gambit. This thing is actually just broken. I play hunter usually using nighthawk myself since it's my best item I have in terms of stats but I hate this damn gun. I refuse to use the thing until it's given it's deserved nerfs

Whenever a weapon is OP, topics like these get created.


Trust me.... I went through it before, with 1k voices, sleeper, etc all wiping enemy teams. :V

[𝕹𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖊]

skill issue

[Zelo3827 ᑐᑌᑎᕮ]

First time huh? No really there is always some new meta either caused by a new somewhat broken weapon, or a glitch that makes another weapon busted. Eyes of tomorrow used to be glued to every gambit invaders heavy slot for like a year. Eriana's Vow went through something similar when it was bugged to kill people in one body shot. The meta will eventually shift again, probably to something a little less insane.

[Kormit the Frag]

well gambit actively nerfs all of your ability cooldowns and super regen, so its not like you have much choice but to just run nighthawk for boss damage because god knows any other build will get one use in the whole game, not to mention how there are 4 of you clearing ads in the same area meaning that adclear builds are even less important.

people will run still hunt with nighthawk because there's no other choice and its consistent (rarest thing in this game), fun and new.
hell, most people dont even want to play gambit but are forced to because of pathfinder. if you want to blame something, blame that.

there's a good chance youll see it less as the season progresses, especially if they nerf it, which they probably will because its fun.

the entire gamemode needs a complete remake, preferably going back to having roles, using the PVE sandbox, and increasing the number of ads + motes required to summon the boss, which should also be a bit more random and have different mechanics each time so it isn't just 'QUICK KILL THE WITCHES, QUICK EVERYBODY GOLDEN GUN'. games just go too fast, even more so now everybody is one shotting the primeval, but i blame it on the gamemode being outdated and bungie forcing people to play it when they wanna use all the new stuff rather than the new stuff itself.

[Dr. Satan]

It wasn't much of a game mode to begin with.

A bit like mouth breathing, but with extra steps.

The worst part is having to listen to drifter talk...

[KlaireMuwurre :3]

Originally posted by N/A:

Originally posted by Kormit the Frag:

well gambit actively nerfs all of your ability cooldowns and super regen, so its not like you have much choice but to just run nighthawk for boss damage because god knows any other build will get one use in the whole game, not to mention how there are 4 of you clearing ads in the same area meaning that adclear builds are even less important.

people will run still hunt with nighthawk because there's no other choice and its consistent (rarest thing in this game), fun and new.
hell, most people dont even want to play gambit but are forced to because of pathfinder. if you want to blame something, blame that.

there's a good chance youll see it less as the season progresses, especially if they nerf it, which they probably will because its fun.

the entire gamemode needs a complete remake, preferably going back to having roles, using the PVE sandbox, and increasing the number of ads + motes required to summon the boss, which should also be a bit more random and have different mechanics each time so it isn't just 'QUICK KILL THE WITCHES, QUICK EVERYBODY GOLDEN GUN'. games just go too fast, even more so now everybody is one shotting the primeval, but i blame it on the gamemode being outdated and bungie forcing people to play it when they wanna use all the new stuff rather than the new stuff itself.

Where are you people getting this? I've reset my gambit rank once already and am half way through my second. I have barely seen anyone use Still Hunt let alone nighthawk and the few that I have seen are not coming anywhere close to outright slaying the prime evil. If celestial hasn't been a problem why would still hunt be when it's weaker?

How did you get blessed with this kind of luck? every single game I've played in gambit since TFS came out is just filled with still hunt nighthawk or scales izanagi. The same two boring builds with 0 variety anymore every single game.