this game is truly unique...

[DOUBLE F]

it has enough content for it that it deosnt need to grind, it has variety of content also. it has a great progression system, it has a great skill system, it is all around polished at the core. the combat flow and core mechanics are really good. but for some reason its tanked by awful predatory pricing and unnecessary gameplay grind. i would legit pay full price for all the story dlc even an upgraded version, but they just ruin the whole game with grind walls and content.

[Titanica (MAGA) (MASA)]

Perhaps

[tiberium]

Hard agree

[rekt0ro]

I agree with the pricing aspect, but I don't agree about removing the grind. Without the grind, you wouldn't be motivated to play the game once you've completed everything, as there would be no reason to continue.

Grinding and RNG are essential components of looter shooter games. These elements are designed to be time-consuming and provide long-lasting engagement, especially with seasonal content and expansions.

[Ghost Racoon]

Unique?
What are you smoking?
This is just typical shooter-looter game with artificially created back story to sell this to players for profit.
Destiny's lore has nothing special if you in sci-fi. Destiny is just pile of different sci-fi ideas being put together.
There is no unique games in 2025. I'm telling you this as 43 y.o. Old School Gamer.

[trukr]

Oh no, the pricing must be hard on you.
You can get (for 3 more days) everything except the dungeon keys for Witch Queen and Lightfall for $30.00 on Humble Bundle, what a staggering price to pay. /s

I have been pre-ordering the deluxe/+annual pass version for years, it works out to less than $9.00/month. If you play a lot it's fine, if you play very little it's pricey.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Farango:

Unique?
What are you smoking?
This is just typical shooter-looter game with artificially created back story to sell this to players for profit.
Destiny's lore has nothing special if you in sci-fi. Destiny is just pile of different sci-fi ideas being put together.
There is no unique games in 2025. I'm telling you this as 43 y.o. Old School Gamer.

There is not another game quite like this, it is unique. Every game anything like this has an artificial story, in other words fiction, this is a 2017 game, not a 2025 game. Is the story a bit disjointed, well yes, but as you said it's a looter shooter, but not just like the rest.

I was playing before you were born, was 30 YO when you were born. Not sure how age is all that important to the point.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Farango:

Unique?
What are you smoking?
This is just typical shooter-looter game with artificially created back story to sell this to players for profit.
Destiny's lore has nothing special if you in sci-fi. Destiny is just pile of different sci-fi ideas being put together.
There is no unique games in 2025. I'm telling you this as 43 y.o. Old School Gamer.

Never seen another game try and do anything similar to raids/dungeons and especially not contest mode.

[Doctor Proteus]

Didn't they remove most of the content and plan on removing more soon?

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

awful predatory pricing

How? For current players it only $100 for the yearly version (less if you find pre-order sales like fantical or greenmangaming) and for new players you can get all purchasable story dlc for on a big sale of $50.

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

unnecessary gameplay grind

You're right it is unnecessary... for the player. Its a looter shooter if you want the loot then do the thing. You can usually get something specific quickly if you do the appropriate activity and the only grind is what you create if you want a specific god roll of a specific weapon or high stat armor neither of which is necessary to do stuff, its just there for the gameplay loop of saying you got it.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Farango:

Unique?
What are you smoking?
This is just typical shooter-looter game with artificially created back story to sell this to players for profit.
Destiny's lore has nothing special if you in sci-fi. Destiny is just pile of different sci-fi ideas being put together.
There is no unique games in 2025. I'm telling you this as 43 y.o. Old School Gamer.

What are you smoking? "Destiny killer" is a widely known term throughout the gaming industry because Destiny was unique and couldn't be topped though many tried and fell and even the ones that didn't fail quickly are different enough from Destiny that it remains unique.

[Insanely Twisted Grey Owl]

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

it has a great progression system

It has progression?

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

it has a great skill system,

Oh, this is bait, right?

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Insanely Twisted Grey Owl:

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

it has a great progression system

It has progression?

Originally posted by DOUBLE F:

it has a great skill system,

Oh, this is bait, right?

Yes, there is progression. You unlock more and more gear, which makes stuff easier, which allows you to get resources much faster, allowing you to unlock even more stuff.

The buildcrafting in this game is the best out of any I have ever seen. Being able to instantly swap between up to 12 setups is incredible.

[Insanely Twisted Grey Owl]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Yes, there is progression. You unlock more and more gear, which makes stuff easier, which allows you to get resources much faster, allowing you to unlock even more stuff.

You're still talking about Destiny? You farm your item level once a year for 2 weeks, so you don't get one shot in dungeons and such. If that's your idea of progression, man, play some RPGs. If you're talking about dungeon and raid gear - what exactly does it make easier? Aside of like 5 exotics, there is usually like 5-10% difference in their performance. Hell, you can just farm Pale Heart and go straight to raids.

Originally posted by Kylito:

The buildcrafting in this game is the best out of any I have ever seen. Being able to instantly swap between up to 12 setups is incredible.

12 setups that barely have any difference between each other. I could go on and on, but it's clear to me that you don't play RPGs, otherwise you'd have much higher standards.

[crispy cranky]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Farango:

Unique?
What are you smoking?
This is just typical shooter-looter game with artificially created back story to sell this to players for profit.
Destiny's lore has nothing special if you in sci-fi. Destiny is just pile of different sci-fi ideas being put together.
There is no unique games in 2025. I'm telling you this as 43 y.o. Old School Gamer.

Never seen another game try and do anything similar to raids/dungeons and especially not contest mode.

Division 2 and 1

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Insanely Twisted Grey Owl:

Originally posted by Kylito:

The buildcrafting in this game is the best out of any I have ever seen. Being able to instantly swap between up to 12 setups is incredible.

12 setups that barely have any difference between each other. I could go on and on, but it's clear to me that you don't play RPGs, otherwise you'd have much higher standards.

What I would give to get the Pre-Lightfall armor mods like Elemental wells and Warmind Cells back, so many fun builds that could be made but now you just throw on Siphons, Finders and sometimes Surges and call it a day.