What's your argument for bungie to bring back past content to the game?

[ospholis]

the only thing worth bringing back would be the raids, the rest of content pre-forsaken wasnt even worth playing, i would spare the boredom of playing the first 3 DLC's to any new light to be honest.

[Hi Im Swat]

It’s impossible for Bungie to do that because they no longer have the game files for it. They deleted them.

Brand new and updated content is coming on Tuesday 6th May and later in July anyway. Onwards to the future.

[Coldhands]

Yeah, the old raids would be nice, but even then, I think I'd rather they use old areas for new content more. If they're going to reuse the old areas at all.
Just bringing back the missing destinations and campaigns as they were adds nothing to the game. If Bungie was going to do anything with the old story content, it should be to create a new New Player Experience that's actually a good onboarding process. But that shouldn't be two dozen hours of campaign that's boring to play through more than once.

[Slleepytime]

New people have a hard time understanding the story with out the year 1/2 content. Them getting rid of that stuff was the dumbest thing they could have done. I enjoyed playing the red war story and think it would help retain people that play for the first time.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Hi Im Swat:

It’s impossible for Bungie to do that because they no longer have the game files for it. They deleted them.

Was that every actually confirmed? Isn't that just clickbait and what they actually said was they didn't have a *playable version* of the old game.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Slleepytime:

New people have a hard time understanding the story with out the year 1/2 content. Them getting rid of that stuff was the dumbest thing they could have done. I enjoyed playing the red war story and think it would help retain people that play for the first time.

And I had a hard time understanding any thing jumping into destiny 2 without playing destiny 1. Right away during the tutorial they expected me to know who Shaxx, Zavala, Ikora, and Cayde were. I assumed the Cabal were a new enemy for a Destiny 2, no idea what the Vex were until Curse of Osiris, apparently I killed the king and prince of the Hive so I assumed they retreated to Titan, and the taken were a big deal I guess and the taken's boss Savathun must have been hiding in a shadow realm waiting for someone, and who the hell is Mara and Prince Uldren?!

You stick with the game and learn.

Edit: oh and apparently there was some "legendary cryptarch" on the farm that I was supposed to know, the Fallen felt like the one thing simple enough to understand as spider space pirates that followed the traveler to earth and fought humanity.

Any destiny 2 player that didn't play destiny 1 was as confused as a new player when starting Shadowkeep.

[Titanica (MAGA) (MASA)]

The argument would be that the files still exist in the game and make the game larger, even though we don't have access to the content. It still exists, it just isn't accessible. That's the argument.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Titanica (MAGA) (MASA):

The argument would be that the files still exist in the game and make the game larger, even though we don't have access to the content. It still exists, it just isn't accessible. That's the argument.

To be clear you're talking about not owning Final Shape but still needing to download it right? Destiny 2 has to operate on a 1 live version of the game for everyone for the sake of maintenance and compatibility. Even modular games that don't make you download everything still have to download of bulk of inaccessible content just so you don't crash if someone with that content joins your game.

[heyisforhorses85]

Can't they do what they did with the Halo master chief collection? Download one dlc at a time, so people can catch up with the story

[Hi Im Swat]

Originally posted by heyisforhorses85:

No, they can't. Destiny 2 is an online only game which means everyone must be running the same content in order to play. This is why you will see error code CAT if you attempt to play with an outdated version.

Halo MCC is not an online only game which means there is no requirement for everyone to have all the content installed. This is why you can pick what you want installed (EG: only Halo 3).

[Slleepytime]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Slleepytime:

New people have a hard time understanding the story with out the year 1/2 content. Them getting rid of that stuff was the dumbest thing they could have done. I enjoyed playing the red war story and think it would help retain people that play for the first time.

And I had a hard time understanding any thing jumping into destiny 2 without playing destiny 1. Right away during the tutorial they expected me to know who Shaxx, Zavala, Ikora, and Cayde were. I assumed the Cabal were a new enemy for a Destiny 2, no idea what the Vex were until Curse of Osiris, apparently I killed the king and prince of the Hive so I assumed they retreated to Titan, and the taken were a big deal I guess and the taken's boss Savathun must have been hiding in a shadow realm waiting for someone, and who the hell is Mara and Prince Uldren?!

You stick with the game and learn.

Edit: oh and apparently there was some "legendary cryptarch" on the farm that I was supposed to know, the Fallen felt like the one thing simple enough to understand as spider space pirates that followed the traveler to earth and fought humanity.

Any destiny 2 player that didn't play destiny 1 was as confused as a new player when starting Shadowkeep.

Yeah it's like you say play and learn but getting into destiny 2 when it first came out is completely different than what it is now. They at least gave some info along the way that you grasp but nowadays a new player would have no idea what is going on and they'd have to watch some lore video to catch up. They should have created a new intro story mode just so people could understand rather than deleting content. I've been playing since D1 and recently got back into destiny 2 and even I was overwhelmed with the things i missed out on. It's also the reason new players don't stick with the game very long imo.

[Ataraxia ♥]

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[Titanica (MAGA) (MASA)]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Titanica (MAGA) (MASA):

The argument would be that the files still exist in the game and make the game larger, even though we don't have access to the content. It still exists, it just isn't accessible. That's the argument.

To be clear you're talking about not owning Final Shape but still needing to download it right? Destiny 2 has to operate on a 1 live version of the game for everyone for the sake of maintenance and compatibility. Even modular games that don't make you download everything still have to download of bulk of inaccessible content just so you don't crash if someone with that content joins your game.

I'm talking about stuff in the DCV.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Titanica (MAGA) (MASA):

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

To be clear you're talking about not owning Final Shape but still needing to download it right? Destiny 2 has to operate on a 1 live version of the game for everyone for the sake of maintenance and compatibility. Even modular games that don't make you download everything still have to download of bulk of inaccessible content just so you don't crash if someone with that content joins your game.

I'm talking about stuff in the DCV.

The DCV drastically reduced the file size what are you talking about? It went from 100-120gb down to 60-70gb after the sunset year 1 content.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by heyisforhorses85:

Can't they do what they did with the Halo master chief collection? Download one dlc at a time, so people can catch up with the story

I literally just explained it in the comment literally right above you. But specifically the Halo MCC is 6 different games you can pick and choose with the "MCC" itself basically being a launcher to open the variety of games and multiplayer options. Halo MCC was built to be modular, Destiny 2 was built to be 1 live version of an online game and is the same as most other mmos operate.

[Nim]

Originally posted by Hi Im Swat:

It’s impossible for Bungie to do that because they no longer have the game files for it. They deleted them.

Brand new and updated content is coming on Tuesday 6th May and later in July anyway. Onwards to the future.

They have the data, they can't put it in the current version of the engine.