What's up with vanguard ?

[cannabis]

Hello,

I wanted a polite title but the real one would have been "What the ♥♥♥♥ with vanguard ?"

Coming back after a long break, just reached the soft cap (at 1961 for now), tried to get into a Vanguard OPS (the normal mode, not the nightfall), just plain awful. 3 times in a row, different instance, mobs are dealing way to much damage than they usually does in this game mode.

So what's up ? 1961 is to low for vanguard ? What activity I'm suppose to do now to grind until the powerful cap ?

I got the witch queen and lightfall xpac but tbh, if I can't do some relax vanguard and slowly grind to the powerful cap, not sure what to do or even if the game is worth playing now...

Thanks

[ShatteredPumpkin]

you expect you get a luxury service cause you bought some stuff? nah man you gotta grind like everyone else does eventually after aquiring good gear exotics etc you get stronger dont expect that every weapon is gonna perform the same xD

[Mez Koo]

They made enemies more aggressive so you actually have to think in the vanguard play list instead of pressing w+m1 all the time.

Start thinking about build basics like putting proper siphon mods on your helm and healing mods on your boots.

[wqzy]

Origineel geplaatst door ShatteredPumpkin:

you expect you get a luxury service cause you bought some stuff? nah man you gotta grind like everyone else does eventually after aquiring good gear exotics etc you get stronger dont expect that every weapon is gonna perform the same xD

its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vanguard a strike lol why is there power level there anyways

[HaloSign]

Origineel geplaatst door Mez Koo:

They made enemies more aggressive so you actually have to think in the vanguard play list instead of pressing w+m1 all the time.

Start thinking about build basics like putting proper siphon mods on your helm and healing mods on your boots.

Hmm, he might be right. I observed, there are some bugs in regard to the default vanguard power level of the enemies. Sometimes even champions appear in the standard vanguard strike. This can not be intentional as champions requires specific weapons and/or artefact setups…

Despite of these bugs, the power level of 1961 is too low for several vanguard strikes imho

[Mez Koo]

Champions aren't intentional, some of the strikes are old converted seasonal activities were were designed with champions in their base form and were never removed as opposed to the older strikes having champions added into higher difficulties.

[cannabis]

Origineel geplaatst door ShatteredPumpkin:

you expect you get a luxury service cause you bought some stuff? nah man you gotta grind like everyone else does eventually after aquiring good gear exotics etc you get stronger dont expect that every weapon is gonna perform the same xD

Na you didn't understand : What activity should I grind after reaching the soft cap ? I feel vanguard has been buffed somehow and I can't grind there anymore for powerful / pinnacle gears

I pointed out I had the witch queen and lightfall so maybe there some extra activity on those xpac I can grind there, not that I expected luxury service.

Current build : https://mobalytics.gg/destiny-2/builds/titan/solar/plunder-igniting-horn

In conclusion I'm looking for a PVE activity to grind powerful gear atm, any suggestion ?

[Mez Koo]

Origineel geplaatst door cannabis:

In conclusion I'm looking for a PVE activity to grind powerful gear atm, any suggestion ?

Farm all the yellow star badges/icon objectives on the map, vanguard should have 3 of them giving you a powerful exotic engram for every 3 strikes up to 9 plus there's the pathfinder system to give you more.

[cannabis]

Origineel geplaatst door Mez Koo:

Origineel geplaatst door cannabis:

In conclusion I'm looking for a PVE activity to grind powerful gear atm, any suggestion ?

Farm all the yellow star badges/icon objectives on the map, vanguard should have 3 of them giving you a powerful exotic engram for every 3 strikes up to 9 plus there's the pathfinder system to give you more.

I explained in my very first post that normal vanguard hit way to hard now, can't get them done as I usually did the past season, did they somehow buff those ? Do you need to reach the powerful level cap to do them ? (2000 I believe) ?

[Mez Koo]

Origineel geplaatst door cannabis:

I explained in my very first post that normal vanguard hit way to hard now,

They're harder but they shouldn't be impossible unless you're trying to do the nightfall version that doesn't have match making.

[HotB]

it sucks, people just skip entire encounters with eager edge swords and you cant keep up, im so sick of kids in gaming, im glad i just uninstalled

[gordoIsMyName]

Origineel geplaatst door HotB:

it sucks, people just skip entire encounters with eager edge swords and you cant keep up, im so sick of kids in gaming, im glad i just uninstalled

i know what you mean. i think an issue there is the game itself puts players into positions where you are forced to replay missions over and over, creating the speed runs.

[Megumin's Husband]

they made the whole game harder because a bunch of streamers with followers complained that the game was too easy

[Mez Koo]

Origineel geplaatst door Megumin's Husband:

they made the whole game harder because a bunch of streamers with followers complained that the game was too easy

To be fair every year there's power creep and we just get stronger and stronger so they had to do something eventually since Final Shape grandmasters have been the easiest they've ever been.

[cannabis]

I will try again vanguard when my power level reach 1970 / 1980 to see if there is any improvement

I will farm crusible and gambit for the meanwhile, I hate PvP but if it is the only way to grind power level before being able to perform in group PVE content like vanguard so be it...

[HaloSign]

Origineel geplaatst door Mez Koo:

Origineel geplaatst door Megumin's Husband:

they made the whole game harder because a bunch of streamers with followers complained that the game was too easy

To be fair every year there's power creep and we just get stronger and stronger so they had to do something eventually since Final Shape grandmasters have been the easiest they've ever been.

I disagree. From the semantic perspective we do not get stronger but weaker.
E.g. take a look to a head or body of a red-enemy. Do you think over the time the bones of the enemy became harder and harder so that a simple bullet is not able to vaporize the whole body and the head?

No, the heads are the same, the bodies are the same just our weapons and bullets become weaker…. That’s actually the physics…