I know Gjallarhorn is a cult favorite weapon, but...

[La Criatura Espada]

What the hell man. Gambit's littered with 4 stacks somehow regenerating Heavy ammo like it's nothing melting the boss and anything PvP wise as invaders or defenders.
What a pay to win weapon man...

[Mez Koo]

Nothing is stopping you from joining an lfg team and using divinity and 3 sleeper simulants with particle deconstruction on the primeval.

[BingusMaster38]

I would agree with you if the gally was even the best PVE boss DPS,, but sleeper is absolutely dominating rn, especially with particle deconstruction.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by ok:

I would agree with you if the gally was even the best PVE boss DPS,, but sleeper is absolutely dominating rn, especially with particle deconstruction.

It's only the best because it's easy to use which is why I said divinity to create the large crit bubble to maximize sleeper damage.

[Blazed_minD]

I'd say particle deconstruction would definitely put the numbers in favour of Sleeper when it comes to high end single target damage.

Another alternative for melting anything like champions or bosses is by going with a sword.

They might not lay a massive instant hit, but where they make up for it is in ammo consumption, rate of fire/ swing speed, interrupts (in pve) and a steady rate of damage.

It would be interesting to see the DPM numbers between say Gjallarhorn, Sleeper and Wordline on a single target.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Blazed_minD:

It would be interesting to see the DPM numbers between say Gjallarhorn, Sleeper and Wordline on a single target.

Plenty of this on YouTube although without the sword. I think a witherhoard with god roll reeds regret or threaded needle is currently the best.

[Blazed_minD]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Plenty of this on YouTube although without the sword. I think a witherhoard with god roll reeds regret or threaded needle is currently the best.

Nice, ill check it out. See if I can find any sort of information on Wordlines dpm while I'm at it.

[Chariot]

I Never ever see anyone talk about lament in gambit, It's capable of single handedly shredding the primeval almost as fast as Particle deconstruction weapons can, Definitely give it a go if you're feeling like getting up close and personal with the primeval.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Chariot:

I Never ever see anyone talk about lament in gambit, It's capable of single handedly shredding the primeval almost as fast as Particle deconstruction weapons can, Definitely give it a go if you're feeling like getting up close and personal with the primeval.

Because sword is risky in terms of surviving but also you can get stomped and could end up with the meat ball plus you're an easy target for invader.

[Ixamesh]

Originally posted by Blazed_minD:

It would be interesting to see the DPM numbers between say Gjallarhorn, Sleeper and Wordline on a single target.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/ncgo8z/the_pve_damage_spreadsheet_has_been_updated_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/jkx2l9/pve_weapon_damage_generatordatabase_a_new/
Both are updated for anniversary patch, steam doesn't allow direct doc links anymore. Wordline is glorified adaptive frame without DMG perks.

[Blazed_minD]

Originally posted by Ixamesh:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/ncgo8z/the_pve_damage_spreadsheet_has_been_updated_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/jkx2l9/pve_weapon_damage_generatordatabase_a_new/
Both are updated for anniversary patch, steam doesn't allow direct doc links anymore. Wordline is glorified adaptive frame without DMG perks.

Thanks for the info, I had a look on the first link (maybe I overlooked it) but I wasn't able to find any sword data on his spread sheet. The second link though provided some very useful stats

Yeah I just saw under the sustained damage column with his unlimited ammo calculation Wordline appears to sit pretty average, he has noted though that's only using light attack values. Where I noticed all swords seem to really shine are in Total Damage & Damage per Mag columns, having some of the highest numbers seen. Interesting.

[Ixamesh]

Originally posted by Blazed_minD:

Thanks for the info, I had a look on the first link (maybe I overlooked it) but I wasn't able to find any sword data on his spread sheet

There's a separate tab for swords in the 1st one, although there's no Worldline there. It's hard to find Worldline tests since perk activation is not suited for DPS, so people used it for movement only and now it's outclassed by Eager Edge perk.

[Blazed_minD]

Originally posted by Ixamesh:

There's a separate tab for swords in the 1st one, although there's no Worldline there. It's hard to find Worldline tests since perk activation is not suited for DPS, so people used it for movement only and now it's outclassed by Eager Edge perk.

Ah cool thanks, I'll go back and have a look.

I'm currently addicted to Wordline's blink attack man.. not just for the movement perk but also the aoe damage it does as you blink. I usually run it on my hunter with the sixth coyote, the combination helps me dodge knock-backs or aoe's from bosses and then charge right back into it.

My titan's currently running with Eager Edge on The Other Half, I can't deny it's a lovely perk but I always end up opting for Wordline on the hunter strangely enough.

[DakotaThrice]

Plenty of talk about the weapons already but regarding ammo Gambit is a great place to be using the Aeon exotics.

[Chariot]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Chariot:

I Never ever see anyone talk about lament in gambit, It's capable of single handedly shredding the primeval almost as fast as Particle deconstruction weapons can, Definitely give it a go if you're feeling like getting up close and personal with the primeval.

Because sword is risky in terms of surviving but also you can get stomped and could end up with the meat ball plus you're an easy target for invader.

That's why you time your charges inbetween the stomps, You take massively reduced damage and don't get flung back if you block when they stomp.

Plus, You can bait out the invader with swords and have easy cleanup, I've used a sword in gambit before and It's fun just blocking with it and running towards a guardian and them being confused as to why I just won't die, Blockings got its uses, and It can make you tank a lot of damage, I'd love to see someone test stuff like stasis resist, stag, and sword blocking (all of which are easy to pull off) when an invader comes around, Maybe it can allow you to tank a rocket.

[Zach]

People aren't melting bosses with Ghorn. They most likely are doing the one-two punch solar hammer build or thundercrash.

In other words titans literally break the game. Probably why bungie is fixing gambit in s16 most likely to give the bosses more hp or something else.