Salvation's Edge is Mediocre

[7ddazoc]

5 encounter raid with only 2 bosses.
Final boss mechanics are boring.
Encounter 3 literally has no reason to exist+boring.
People only want to play with hunters. Titans are completely useless imo, Warlocks are just ok.
This is not rage bait. I want to know what others think about the issues.

[N33MA]

Don't agree with any of the points besides maybe the hunter one but even then titan can clear the raid just fine.

[7ddazoc]

Originally posted by N33MA:

Don't agree with any of the points besides maybe the hunter one but even then titan can clear the raid just fine.

yeah they can clear but most LFG teams are asking specifically for hunters. I have cleared the entire thing on titan, but it is (final boss mainly) so much easier on hunter. I just think that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥, considering every class has a role in most other raids.

[N33MA]

Originally posted by ddazoc:

Originally posted by N33MA:

Don't agree with any of the points besides maybe the hunter one but even then titan can clear the raid just fine.

yeah they can clear but most LFG teams are asking specifically for hunters. I have cleared the entire thing on titan, but it is (final boss mainly) so much easier on hunter. I just think that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥, considering every class has a role in most other raids.

That's LFG's problem not the raid's itself. Once surges are universal and people are more comfortable with the damage mechanics people won't care what class you play.

[illuser]

Honestly couldn't disagree more.

Haven't had this much fun with a new raid since Last Wish.

[Cafe]

The raid is pretty fun, the first 3 encounters are just rush rush, verity is good once you get the hang of it and the witness is all about the dps phase. Also titans aren't useless, use star eater's class item with twilights arsenal and you get some decent damage and for the witness you can literally negate all his attacks with ursa's shield (you don't even have to jump).

[Ruuod]

Originally posted by N33MA:

Don't agree with any of the points besides maybe the hunter one but even then titan can clear the raid just fine.

3rd encounter is boring and pointless tho

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by ddazoc:

Final boss mechanics are boring.

Mechanics are fine, the problem is that the greatest foe we've ever faced that is supposed to be ending the universe are at least galaxy is killed by "oh no please don't hit me in my big open and defenseless crit spot that doesn't move! OwO"

The raid should have been different and clear the raid should have created that spot for the story mode kill.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by ddazoc:

5 encounter raid with only 2 bosses.
Final boss mechanics are boring.
Encounter 3 literally has no reason to exist+boring.
People only want to play with hunters. Titans are completely useless imo, Warlocks are just ok.
This is not rage bait. I want to know what others think about the issues.

Most raids have 2 bosses. Not sure what you're talking about.

Every raid has its ups and downs. I can see your point on encounter 3 being pointless (Should of been swapped with two, along side the three symbels)

Final boss mechanics arnt boring per say. Its just that people dont know how to move and do dps and people seemingly ignore sound cue's.

Titan is great for ad clear.

[Prostate Puncher]

There's already been a Titan trio clear of the Witness, so I wouldn't say they're useless. They were only "useless" on Contest because precision damage for boss damage means Hunters will always be best, and Warlocks do best supporting in those types of situations.

[Prostate Puncher]

Originally posted by KING:

Originally posted by Prostate Puncher:

There's already been a Titan trio clear of the Witness, so I wouldn't say they're useless. They were only "useless" on Contest because precision damage for boss damage means Hunters will always be best, and Warlocks do best supporting in those types of situations.

Even in non-contest, hunters are still the clear dps pick though. I’ve heard people audibly disappointed when finding out a titan is on the team instead of warlock or hunter. Titans aren’t 100% useless, it’s more that the raid just doesn’t need them at all either. Warlock and hunter are pretty much a requirement. Titans can just not be there and it won’t matter

And so what if those Hunters whinge? You can outdo a lot of players with just Microcosm and two Kinetic Surge mods equipped. That's class agnostic.

LFG will cry and moan you're not using "the meta", but it doesn't matter because its not actually required. Doesn't mean the raid is bad.

[Filipino Enjoyer]

Originally posted by KING:

Originally posted by Prostate Puncher:

And so what if those Hunters whinge? You can outdo a lot of players with just Microcosm and two Kinetic Surge mods equipped. That's class agnostic.

LFG will cry and moan you're not using "the meta", but it doesn't matter because its not actually required. Doesn't mean the raid is bad.

I never said the raid was bad? What lol. I also never said hunters whinge. Everyone does, except the titans of course. Microcosm won’t beat out a hunter with celestial and still hunt, not even close either. For last stand, burst damage is also required which hunters are the clear choice since the timer is only 10 seconds and hunters can do 2m damage each in that time frame

a random exotic with 2 leg mods against 2 exotics + build supporting those 2 exotics, crazy one of them does better than the other

[Bobermeister]

I think it's the best raid ever made for destiny. I have 2 complaints , 1 is the first boss, it has the same problem as many other boss encounter where the mechanics are dumbed down because only half of the encounter is about the mechanics and the other half is damaging the boss. I prefer non boss encounters over boss encounters generally because I like engaging with mechanics more than standing still and shooting a gun/swinging a sword. My second complaint is about the 4th encounter, you always have 2 people on adclear since solo dissecting is easier. No idea how bad the raid is in lfg since I’m in an endgame clan and I exclusively play with that clan, so I can't really talk about how hard it is to find a group as a titan. But as a titan main I can tell you that it's not only the raid that's rough for titans, titans as a whole are very very very bad right now. Their entire prismatic kit sucks compared to hunter.