Getting ban for G hub macros

[-_|S.V|_-Shpymouse]

I want to make a mouse macros for my mouse using G hub to use well and shatter scating, can I get ban for such things?

[DCR]

If you mean saving that macro to a key in your mouse's hardware, so it can run it without any driver installed, then no. This doesn't mean in the future custom macro's cant be detected, since your programming in fixed responses. Which in turn means repetitive behaviour. If this was a competitive title you would be banned most likely, but it's not so who cares.
If your asking if the game can not like your software, idk.
Would be a bit weird if it didn't like a mouse driver.

[Mez Koo]

You can but using it for specifically that purpose is cheating, one button press should only activate one action and if you're pressing a single button to performance the sequence of actions to skate then you're cheating.

[Jagdtiger]

Bungie doesn't ban for basic macros, most PC players use macros for well, shatter, snap cancel, etc. What bungie doesn't like is "automation" of gameplay, which translates to afk farming by using a macro to perform an action repeatedly. It could change in the future but that's how it has been for a while

[Eriana]

Bungie has stated in the past that they will not ban the use of macros for basic things such as making things like Skating, farming things like Shuro-chi, or farming materials like Glimmer. You'll be fine.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Vivi:

Bungie has stated in the past that they will not ban the use of macros for basic things such as making things like Skating, farming things like Shuro-chi, or farming materials like Glimmer. You'll be fine.

Source?

[Leown]

So there really has not been an official response to the use of Macros outside of y'know to avoid the AFK timer in matchmade content (which yes it can be bannable) as far as i'm aware maybe a couple brief "as long as it's not giving advantage" talks.

However for such things like the Shard farming, Glimmer, XP, and Skating no one has been banned or at least been made an example of since how many years now with people using Macros or even tiny task etc.

Though just be aware while it is a grey area that they have not addressed there is still a possibility they might bring down the hammer at some point.

It also matters what your going to use Skating in. From my understanding so long as your not using the input during PvP or worlds first kinda stuff where people get spicey about fairness you should be okay. But again there is always the risk Bungo might turn around and start drop kicking people. I'd highly recommend reading into a few topics about it cause there is quite a few out there and many have different opinions on it. Might find some thing a bit more solid to go off of if you can't get info here.

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Vivi:

Bungie has stated in the past that they will not ban the use of macros for basic things such as making things like Skating, farming things like Shuro-chi, or farming materials like Glimmer. You'll be fine.

Source?

"Abusing external accessibility tools or aids specifically to gain an advantage over other players will result in escalating actions, including bans. This does not include using accessibility aids that enable an experience the game designers intended.
“External accessibility aides” are any device or input that augment the player’s ability to control the game beyond what it normally provides. This includes, but is not limited to, programmable controllers, keyboard/mouse adapters, advanced macros, or automation via artificial intelligence. This does not include features that Bungie provides. For more information on how Bungie supports accessibility, check out our goals outlined by Accessibility at Bungie right here.
“Experience the game designers intended” means that content meant to be difficult, or prestige, is designed like that for a reason. We do not intend for difficulty to be automated away via software or hardware. Therefore, simply using an accessibility aide to play Destiny 2, where a player could not play otherwise, would not be a violation of this policy. Using these tools to mitigate challenges all players face, such as reduce recoil or increase aim assist, would be a violation.
“Gain an advantage” means used for the purpose, directly or indirectly, of achieving victory. For example, we have observed some players that abuse these tools rise in the PvP leaderboards at a rate far beyond what is typical for a player improving through normal play. Because benefits of cheating in PvE can spill over into PvP, we will be evaluating all gameplay for violations."

Source, Bungie's own website: https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049517431-Destiny-Account-Restrictions-and-Banning-Policies

Can be found under the "Abuse of External Accessibility Tools" tab in "How to not get Banned or Restricted"

[DCR]

Originally posted by Vivi:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Source?

"Abusing external accessibility tools or aids specifically to gain an advantage over other players will result in escalating actions, including bans. This does not include using accessibility aids that enable an experience the game designers intended.
“External accessibility aides” are any device or input that augment the player’s ability to control the game beyond what it normally provides. This includes, but is not limited to, programmable controllers, keyboard/mouse adapters, advanced macros, or automation via artificial intelligence. This does not include features that Bungie provides. For more information on how Bungie supports accessibility, check out our goals outlined by Accessibility at Bungie right here.
“Experience the game designers intended” means that content meant to be difficult, or prestige, is designed like that for a reason. We do not intend for difficulty to be automated away via software or hardware. Therefore, simply using an accessibility aide to play Destiny 2, where a player could not play otherwise, would not be a violation of this policy. Using these tools to mitigate challenges all players face, such as reduce recoil or increase aim assist, would be a violation.
“Gain an advantage” means used for the purpose, directly or indirectly, of achieving victory. For example, we have observed some players that abuse these tools rise in the PvP leaderboards at a rate far beyond what is typical for a player improving through normal play. Because benefits of cheating in PvE can spill over into PvP, we will be evaluating all gameplay for violations."

Source, Bungie's own website: https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049517431-Destiny-Account-Restrictions-and-Banning-Policies

Can be found under the "Abuse of External Accessibility Tools" tab in "How to not get Banned or Restricted"

Well you have very poor understanding of the words in there then. By that statement, nobody should use any macro's. Knock on wood, dont have any here.
If HOWEVER you have a handicap, strong reasons to need a controller or such to fit your accessibility needs, it's more accepted and understood.

They literally state if you use macro's and such unnecessarily for pve, that might transfer over for some players to use the same stuff in pvp and thus you have an infestation or abuse of the game.

I showcased years ago, that in another game, where the game had mappable keys for movement, and even included wait pause commands, that you could infact use that to automate tricky actions. Including getting up to higher height to get an item and such, it was for 99% of players useless, skill floor in game already very high among players.

But the principle remained the same, you could automate it via the game itself. After that, they removed the features from the game so it became equal for all.

This is an action that would be equal to sword skating in d2. Which a lot of people are apparently using macro's for and even posting guides for.

The correct way to go about that from a developer pov would simply be to give us a mappable button, pre-requisite stating in the game "you'll need eager edge" etc.
Because the current trend isn't great, some are getting away with perfect timings on these everytime, which from even an pve perspective, and given the game has a laughable speedrun community, it's actually cheating off other players to do the same unless they ALSO do the same bs.

And that's not great. Doesn't make a good part of the community.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Vivi:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Source?

"Abusing external accessibility tools or aids specifically to gain an advantage over other players will result in escalating actions, including bans. This does not include using accessibility aids that enable an experience the game designers intended.
“External accessibility aides” are any device or input that augment the player’s ability to control the game beyond what it normally provides. This includes, but is not limited to, programmable controllers, keyboard/mouse adapters, advanced macros, or automation via artificial intelligence. This does not include features that Bungie provides. For more information on how Bungie supports accessibility, check out our goals outlined by Accessibility at Bungie right here.
“Experience the game designers intended” means that content meant to be difficult, or prestige, is designed like that for a reason. We do not intend for difficulty to be automated away via software or hardware. Therefore, simply using an accessibility aide to play Destiny 2, where a player could not play otherwise, would not be a violation of this policy. Using these tools to mitigate challenges all players face, such as reduce recoil or increase aim assist, would be a violation.
“Gain an advantage” means used for the purpose, directly or indirectly, of achieving victory. For example, we have observed some players that abuse these tools rise in the PvP leaderboards at a rate far beyond what is typical for a player improving through normal play. Because benefits of cheating in PvE can spill over into PvP, we will be evaluating all gameplay for violations."

Source, Bungie's own website: https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049517431-Destiny-Account-Restrictions-and-Banning-Policies

Can be found under the "Abuse of External Accessibility Tools" tab in "How to not get Banned or Restricted"

In what world does any of that mean you're allowed to automate things like skating or farming when it clearly includes "advanced macros and programmable keyboard/mice." Skating is NOT a basic thing, are you automating a process which requires specific timing with specific button presses that the average player probably can't normally do.

Bungie has said in the past they won't ban for harmless things like automating gear dismantling or auto clicking to redeem stuff from vendors and while I've never heard of anyone being banned for skate macros and Bungie probably doesn't care it is dishonest to just flat out say "Bungie says it is okay to run advanced macros."

Things like youtubers admitting to and publically using skate macros and all the checkpoint bots being allowed to run are exceptions and not the rule and only thing it shows is that bungie doesn't heavily enforce macros bans but officially you should not be automating the game as the text you quoted says.

[Mez Koo]

@OP the official answer is yes but realistically you won't get banned unless you're clearly cheating and get caught, skipping intended gameplay or mechanics with skating while cheesy isn't really cheating and won't flag you for a ban. If bungie cared they would've nerfed it within the past 3 years.

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Vivi:

"Abusing external accessibility tools or aids specifically to gain an advantage over other players will result in escalating actions, including bans. This does not include using accessibility aids that enable an experience the game designers intended.
“External accessibility aides” are any device or input that augment the player’s ability to control the game beyond what it normally provides. This includes, but is not limited to, programmable controllers, keyboard/mouse adapters, advanced macros, or automation via artificial intelligence. This does not include features that Bungie provides. For more information on how Bungie supports accessibility, check out our goals outlined by Accessibility at Bungie right here.
“Experience the game designers intended” means that content meant to be difficult, or prestige, is designed like that for a reason. We do not intend for difficulty to be automated away via software or hardware. Therefore, simply using an accessibility aide to play Destiny 2, where a player could not play otherwise, would not be a violation of this policy. Using these tools to mitigate challenges all players face, such as reduce recoil or increase aim assist, would be a violation.
“Gain an advantage” means used for the purpose, directly or indirectly, of achieving victory. For example, we have observed some players that abuse these tools rise in the PvP leaderboards at a rate far beyond what is typical for a player improving through normal play. Because benefits of cheating in PvE can spill over into PvP, we will be evaluating all gameplay for violations."

Source, Bungie's own website: https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049517431-Destiny-Account-Restrictions-and-Banning-Policies

Can be found under the "Abuse of External Accessibility Tools" tab in "How to not get Banned or Restricted"

In what world does any of that mean you're allowed to automate things like skating or farming when it clearly includes "advanced macros and programmable keyboard/mice." Skating is NOT a basic thing, are you automating a process which requires specific timing with specific button presses that the average player probably can't normally do.

Bungie has said in the past they won't ban for harmless things like automating gear dismantling or auto clicking to redeem stuff from vendors and while I've never heard of anyone being banned for skate macros and Bungie probably doesn't care it is dishonest to just flat out say "Bungie says it is okay to run advanced macros."

Things like youtubers admitting to and publically using skate macros and all the checkpoint bots being allowed to run are exceptions and not the rule and only thing it shows is that bungie doesn't heavily enforce macros bans but officially you should not be automating the game as the text you quoted says.

Skating is a basic thing lmao.

"Specific timing and Specific Button Presses" Literally simply requires you to Heavy Attack off a ledge, and before you hit the end of said ledge, jump, then right after pressing jump, you either Shatter Dive or press your Super Key. While these admittedly do have fairly tight timings, it takes 15 minutes to get the timing down and becomes really easy to do consistently. It is a very basic thing that most people can do, with or without Macros, I would know, I suck ass at the game and can do it with ease, admittedly I mistime every once in a while, but I've got it down nonetheless.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Vivi:

Skating is a basic thing lmao.

Originally posted by Vivi:

Literally simply requires you to Heavy Attack off a ledge, and before you hit the end of said ledge, jump, then right after pressing jump, you either Shatter Dive or press your Super Key. While these admittedly do have fairly tight timings, it takes 15 minutes to get the timing down and becomes really easy to do consistently.

So which is it? a simple button press or a sequence of actions you need to practice to do consistently? Setting a mouse button to toggle the w key to have an auto run macro is a simple and basic thing, setting a single mouse button to sword attack, jump, and then use an ability all with specific timing is not a basic or simple 1 button to 1 action function.

Also let's not change and forget the subject, you said Bungie said it is okay and when you posted the source it literally says "macros and programmable keyboard/mouse are not okay to abuse."