Lightfall is not as bad as people say

[Qtael]

I decided to buy it today, and if you don’t care about the story as i, it is really fun
The new class is very fun to play and i like it more than stasis, gameplay missions are fun, environments are very well done
Still haven’t tried the new raid tho

[Mez Koo]

Sure its fun but its just filler with nothing explained and made to sell Strand. Of course there are the "game bad" people but most actual criticism comes from how much worse it is than Witch Queen. Sure its okay and still fun but it could have been better and everyone knows it from the bar set by Witch Queen.

[Horn]

You think so because at its core Destiny 2 is still a good game. It's fun to shoot stuff, move around, get levels, get loot, they didn't ruin this aspect. But the DLC is at least worse than we were promised.

We were promised a better and bigger story campaign than Witch Queen, but we were given shorter missions with almost no mechanics, with almost no changes in the environments, and which doesn't answer any questions, but only asks more questions. I still remember almost all the missions from Witch Queen, here I remember only the first, third and maybe the last. The rest is an unremarkable shooting gallery in the same environment.

We were promised a neon cyberpunk city, but in fact that city is somewhere out there on the horizon, and of the entire playable area just one-third is more or less looks like a city.

And we got a raid that puts the very name "raid" to shame. There are more complicated and interesting mechanics in some dungeons than in this disgrace.

And that's not even talking about the weapons, which are almost all a reuse and reskin of the old guns. Reskins in the most expensive expansion in Destiny history. So yeah, I think Lightfall deserves all the hate.

[Qtael]

Originally posted by Horn:

You think so because at its core Destiny 2 is still a good game. It's fun to shoot stuff, move around, get levels, get loot, they didn't ruin this aspect. But the DLC is at least worse than we were promised.

We were promised a better and bigger story campaign than Witch Queen, but we were given shorter missions with almost no mechanics, with almost no changes in the environments, and which doesn't answer any questions, but only asks more questions. I still remember almost all the missions from Witch Queen, here I remember only the first, third and maybe the last. The rest is an unremarkable shooting gallery in the same environment.

We were promised a neon cyberpunk city, but in fact that city is somewhere out there on the horizon, and of the entire playable area just one-third is more or less looks like a city.

And we got a raid that puts the very name "raid" to shame. There are more complicated and interesting mechanics in some dungeons than in this disgrace.

And that's not even talking about the weapons, which are almost all a reuse and reskin of the old guns. Reskins in the most expensive expansion in Destiny history. So yeah, I think Lightfall deserves all the hate.

For sure I agree, witch queen was way better, for me it wad 9/10
But this one is definitely not as terrible as steam rating reviews, maybe 6.5, 7/10

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Qtael:

But this one is definitely not as terrible as steam rating reviews, maybe 6.5, 7/10

Steam rating isn't a score, its simply a like/dislike meter and most people gave it a thumbs down for a variety of reasons.

[Lano-17]

If only it didnt come with double (triple really?) nerfs it could be my favorite update yet.

Compared to S19 - the most solo friendly - the difficulty gap is large for me. The game went from hard to 'insane hard' for me. Everything I load in has to be meta with full synergy or just forget even going, because its a sweatfest.

But I still fail to architects, now that I think, it is mostly architects now. Feels like the already overtuned OHK spam, is worse than ever, not even the hardest games do that for the sake of "challenge", because they know ultimately the goal is to provide a form of entertainment.

Strand would be incredible as a new subclass combining the mobility and clear, but the long cooldowns make it feel worse than other subclasses. On the Warlock I have to play twice as hard on Strand, so whats the point ?

[Pocahawtness]

Originally posted by Qtael:

I decided to buy it today, and if you don’t care about the story as i, it is really fun
The new class is very fun to play and i like it more than stasis, gameplay missions are fun, environments are very well done
Still haven’t tried the new raid tho

I thought that at first, but now I am a few weeks in to playing, I have reversed my initial opinion and think it's horrible.

My main concern is they seem to have just changed everything to the same level of difficulty. There are times when I just want to relax, take it easy, explore and do some weeklies on, and there are also times when I want to attempt something that I know I'm going to get a real challenge. Instead of adding more challenging activities, what they have done is just lift the difficulty of everything upwards. To me, that is a really dumb thing to do because it has made casual activities annoying.
I dunno, I am depressed that I spent so much money on an package that has fundamentally changed the game in a way that is bound to divide the fan-base and drive many of them away from the game.

[Qtael]

Upd: i just finished a new raid, it was so much fun, it’s the easiest raid, but I really liked it cause I don’t have a team and we just finished it with a random fire team from the first time

[Psycho]

a lot of people say strand is weak and underpowered but the second ability (when you press C) feels really strong. strand seems like the perfect class for a hunter

[Orion]

Originally posted by Qtael:

Originally posted by Horn:

You think so because at its core Destiny 2 is still a good game. It's fun to shoot stuff, move around, get levels, get loot, they didn't ruin this aspect. But the DLC is at least worse than we were promised.

We were promised a better and bigger story campaign than Witch Queen, but we were given shorter missions with almost no mechanics, with almost no changes in the environments, and which doesn't answer any questions, but only asks more questions. I still remember almost all the missions from Witch Queen, here I remember only the first, third and maybe the last. The rest is an unremarkable shooting gallery in the same environment.

We were promised a neon cyberpunk city, but in fact that city is somewhere out there on the horizon, and of the entire playable area just one-third is more or less looks like a city.

And we got a raid that puts the very name "raid" to shame. There are more complicated and interesting mechanics in some dungeons than in this disgrace.

And that's not even talking about the weapons, which are almost all a reuse and reskin of the old guns. Reskins in the most expensive expansion in Destiny history. So yeah, I think Lightfall deserves all the hate.

For sure I agree, witch queen was way better, for me it wad 9/10
But this one is definitely not as terrible as steam rating reviews, maybe 6.5, 7/10

You know why WQ was better story wise?
Campaning was not New supper tutorial like we got now in lightfall.
Its totaly Filler Expansion, you can see that 1st and last cutscene are the same Scene just cut in 2 ;O
Or do you think Witness had The longest in history Stareoff with traveler while we ware doing our "missions"

[mark1971]

Originally posted by Horn:

And that's not even talking about the weapons, which are almost all a reuse and reskin of the old guns. Reskins in the most expensive expansion in Destiny history.

Seriously, what Bungie releases each year is a lot.

I think the engine has its limitations, that's why they is re-use so many polygons. But that's a theory.

To each their own but I like it. The new subclass, -campaign, -location, activities, all those improvements. Bungie put a lot of work into this DLC. For me, it's just another part of all, and the campaign is just the beginning. I also don't get all the negativity about Nimbus, listening to him is fun.

At the end of the day it's just a game I paid little for, in relation for a whole year of entertainment.

- In my humble opinion.

[Orion]

Originally posted by Stardust:

Originally posted by Horn:

And that's not even talking about the weapons, which are almost all a reuse and reskin of the old guns. Reskins in the most expensive expansion in Destiny history.

Seriously, what Bungie releases each year is a lot.

I think the engine has its limitations, that's why they is re-use so many polygons. But that's a theory.

To each their own but I like it. The new subclass, -campaign, -location, activities, all those improvements. Bungie put a lot of work into this DLC. For me, it's just another part of all, and the campaign is just the beginning. I also don't get all the negativity about Nimbus, listening to him is fun.

At the end of the day it's just a game I paid little for, in relation for a whole year of entertainment.

- In my humble opinion.

And i was always wondering why all Raids have Mechanics with balls in them xD

[mark1971]

Originally posted by Orion:

And i was always wondering why all Raids have Mechanics with balls in them xD

LOL King's Fall has less...

You know, I'm just glad about another year.

[cuz]

it is

[Shepherd]

I can't believe people actually care about the story of this game.

[KingOneDa]

Originally posted by Qtael:

I decided to buy it today, and if you don’t care about the story as i, it is really fun
The new class is very fun to play and i like it more than stasis, gameplay missions are fun, environments are very well done
Still haven’t tried the new raid tho

people hate nearly everything these times.
Lightfall is cool, strand is cool, the changes in all class and the artefakt are cool.
U can play now a ton of builds they are strong. not only 2 oder 3 builds.