Bungie warning upon reset login?

[Master Saber]

"This account has a consistently unstable internet connection that is affecting other players. If this continues, the account may be restricted from matchmaking against other players. "

Just because I have a moderate NAT doesn't mean I have to fix my internet. I've been raiding for years on end and doing matchmaking for years on end. FIX. YOUR. GAME.

[Wizard_of_Nozs]

So fix your NAT or face the consequences muahahahahahahahahahah

Muahahahahahahahaha

Muahahahahahahahaha

[Master Saber]

Originally posted by Wizard_of_Nozs:

So fix your NAT or face the consequences muahahahahahahahahahah

Muahahahahahahahaha

Muahahahahahahahaha

So constructive /sarcasm. Nothing wrong with my NAT type.

[Nakos]

Destiny 2 is notorious for being unable to re-establish dropped connections.

If you're playing over WiFi, try switch to a hardline connection.

[Mez Koo]

They're just saying don't be surprised if you receive quitter penalties if you disconnect from matches or I suppose yours could be so bad you're getting reported for network manipulation.

[Master Saber]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

They're just saying don't be surprised if you receive quitter penalties if you disconnect from matches or I suppose yours could be so bad you're getting reported for network manipulation.

makes sense, you know, it could be that I have to wait for the match to kick me to orbit. I don't quit from any matchmade activity.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Master Saber:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

They're just saying don't be surprised if you receive quitter penalties if you disconnect from matches or I suppose yours could be so bad you're getting reported for network manipulation.

makes sense, you know, it could be that I have to wait for the match to kick me to orbit. I don't quit from any matchmade activity.

I'm not saying you're quitting but they might think your network quality will get you dropped from matches.

[Jagdtiger]

This is only caused when other players are reporting you for either bad connection, or network manipulation under cheating. They're basically saying that if you continue to get reported you will be banned. Happened to my buddy with dodgy internet, he got banned for 2 weeks, and then next time for 2 months

[Master Saber]

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

This is only caused when other players are reporting you for either bad connection, or network manipulation under cheating. They're basically saying that if you continue to get reported you will be banned. Happened to my buddy with dodgy internet, he got banned for 2 weeks, and then next time for 2 months

That sucks. No investigation, just finger pointing. Reminds me of console matchmaking.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Master Saber:

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

This is only caused when other players are reporting you for either bad connection, or network manipulation under cheating. They're basically saying that if you continue to get reported you will be banned. Happened to my buddy with dodgy internet, he got banned for 2 weeks, and then next time for 2 months

That sucks. No investigation, just finger pointing. Reminds me of console matchmaking.

Unfortunately choppy internet and network manipulation are near indistinguishable by the numbers. So its very hard to tell the difference when your the analyst checking the data.

Sadly people in general are petty.

[The One They Call Dante]

Hi there!

If you are receiving this message, then it is indicating that your network connection is adversely affecting other users in game.

You stated earlier that you have a Moderate NAT. This can limit the pool of players you can connect to. While you may not notice an issue, they may see you either jumping around on screen, or lagging.

I recommend reviewing the Advance Network Troubleshooting Guide, linked below, to review what these NATs mean and steps you can take to resolve these issues. You want to strive for an Open NAT.

https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049496751-Advanced-Troubleshooting-UPnP-Port-Forwarding-and-NAT-Types

[Master Saber]

Originally posted by The One They Call Dante:

Hi there!

If you are receiving this message, then it is indicating that your network connection is adversely affecting other users in game.

You stated earlier that you have a Moderate NAT. This can limit the pool of players you can connect to. While you may not notice an issue, they may see you either jumping around on screen, or lagging.

I recommend reviewing the Advance Network Troubleshooting Guide, linked below, to review what these NATs mean and steps you can take to resolve these issues. You want to strive for an Open NAT.

https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049496751-Advanced-Troubleshooting-UPnP-Port-Forwarding-and-NAT-Types

I have a home router to prevent exactly what bungie reveals in the article to be a security risk with opening ports either in uPnP and Port forwarding. I quote: "Opening ports on the router/modem may decrease the overall security of the home network" and "people with bad intentions can use malicious software to cause harm to a network if the UPnP setup is poorly designed within a router or modem."

All I am saying is that I've never had an issue with my NAT type before since games like destiny 1 first released on the console. The networking codes and disconnects seem to be an increasing bungie-end issue on PC due to unpolished content that reasonably just released just recently. So it seems that without truly investigating those reports, people that actually play the game legit get banned for no actual reason. I made my post not to argue with steam or bungie moderators, but to voice my frustration at a sloppy warning.

[Tuckz]

stop blaming the game for your own issues

[Grimwit]

Originally posted by Master Saber:

Originally posted by The One They Call Dante:

Hi there!

If you are receiving this message, then it is indicating that your network connection is adversely affecting other users in game.

You stated earlier that you have a Moderate NAT. This can limit the pool of players you can connect to. While you may not notice an issue, they may see you either jumping around on screen, or lagging.

I recommend reviewing the Advance Network Troubleshooting Guide, linked below, to review what these NATs mean and steps you can take to resolve these issues. You want to strive for an Open NAT.

https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049496751-Advanced-Troubleshooting-UPnP-Port-Forwarding-and-NAT-Types

The networking codes and disconnects seem to be an increasing bungie-end issue on PC due to unpolished content that reasonably just released just recently.

..but it's not,
It's a problem on your end that you need to fix..or not.
You can keep blaming Bungie if you want, but that's not gonna get your connection fixed.

[Ember Loom]

Opening ports and having that open is how every interaction with online games take place, I closed my ports once when I got into InfoSec just to test, and no online game worked. Nothing. From cod (ew i know) to league (worse, I know.). The point is having open ports is required for you to communicate with your router, which then communicates with severs which then match makes you. Having limited NAT slows this down or stops it all together, hence why people think you are cheating, because it is nearly impossible to see the difference between someone actually cheating then having bad connections, because it uses the same thing.

Besides, there are a lot of other security concerns that are more widely spoofed then opening your port to the internet, which every router does. Modern routers have firewalls in protection of this, because all routers are meant to connect to the internet. If someone wants in, they would find a way.

TLDR: While its annoying, how else is the game going to warn you other then a popup? They cant call you. They cant email you. Its all automated. If you enjoy the game and want to play it, its something you'll have to do.

[Master Saber]

Originally posted by Star Creator:

Opening ports and having that open is how every interaction with online games take place, I closed my ports once when I got into InfoSec just to test, and no online game worked. Nothing. From cod (ew i know) to league (worse, I know.). The point is having open ports is required for you to communicate with your router, which then communicates with severs which then match makes you. Having limited NAT slows this down or stops it all together, hence why people think you are cheating, because it is nearly impossible to see the difference between someone actually cheating then having bad connections, because it uses the same thing.

Besides, there are a lot of other security concerns that are more widely spoofed then opening your port to the internet, which every router does. Modern routers have firewalls in protection of this, because all routers are meant to connect to the internet. If someone wants in, they would find a way.

TLDR: While its annoying, how else is the game going to warn you other then a popup? They cant call you. They cant email you. Its all automated. If you enjoy the game and want to play it, its something you'll have to do.

I understand, but having an open NAT invites every neighbor and their dog access to my network. I'll attempt the port forward approach instead, even though every other game including halo which was first developed by bungie never provided me with this problem before.