Thoughts on revision zero?

[Jagdtiger]

4 burst 450rpm is just worse than 340rpm due to having the same ttk and less forgiving headshot breakpoints. 2 burst 450 is in direct competition with 3 burst 450 (e.g battler), but trades a tiny ttk decrease for much less forgiving headshot breakpoints, especially against guardians with more than 5 resil.

seems a bit naff

[bonjemon]

is it not more of a PvE gun with its intrinsic perk being shield piercing?

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by bonjemon:

is it not more of a PvE gun with its intrinsic perk being shield piercing?

iirc, one of the sandbox people at bungie said it was more of a pvp oriented gun, and i guess the shield piercing was added to make it not totally useless in pve, similar to devil's ruin having unstoppable. Being a kinetic exotic and therefore in direct competition with striga, witherhoard, ager's, and especially arbalest, i dont see it getting on regardless

[Tea]

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

Originally posted by bonjemon:

is it not more of a PvE gun with its intrinsic perk being shield piercing?

iirc, one of the sandbox people at bungie said it was more of a pvp oriented gun, and i guess the shield piercing was added to make it not totally useless in pve, similar to devil's ruin having unstoppable. Being a kinetic exotic and therefore in direct competition with striga, witherhoard, ager's, and especially arbalest, i dont see it getting on regardless

people are going to complain about it in pvp and it will probs get a nerf but we'll see

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by Tea and Coffee:

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

iirc, one of the sandbox people at bungie said it was more of a pvp oriented gun, and i guess the shield piercing was added to make it not totally useless in pve, similar to devil's ruin having unstoppable. Being a kinetic exotic and therefore in direct competition with striga, witherhoard, ager's, and especially arbalest, i dont see it getting on regardless

people are going to complain about it in pvp and it will probs get a nerf but we'll see

People will certainly start complaining when they're hit with the weird tarrabah+icebreaker sniper perk in trials next weekend. It certainly has a situational use there for skilled sniper players in breaking stalemates and making standoff distance play more risky. Though at a ridiculous 12 headshots to activate, i dont see it dethroning NTTE on the kill charts

[Zach]

the 2 round burst is pretty good in pvp seeing as it requires 5 crits? it stacks up against other pulse rifles but in terms of consistency will always lose to pulses like NTTE. As for the 4 round i think that's a little better but a pulse like the battler would be slightly better seeing as it can roll KC. also if you use the 4 round burst you will always lose a gunfight against something like NTTE and you'll always trade with a battler or lose depending on who got the first burst off. the linear mode is nice but taking about 12 crits for 1 shot is a little too much it needs to be adjusted for pvp.

overall i'd rate the gun a 7 for pvp. there's obviously better guns to use.

[Berry]

Seems pretty damn underwhelming so far.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Fun.

[Mez Koo]

Eh

I don't see what people are saying about it being unique, its just a kinetic pulse version of Vex Mythoclast with more customization. If it was stasis then I'd consider it but just kinetic? Eh.

[@xaker89]

This is Velex-X, look at the model and compare them xd

[Chariot]

As far as weapons of it's type, Probably wouldn't use it over quicksilver storm.

[R A Z E R]

The 4 burst mode is pretty underwhelming so far, 2 burst is the way to go. In it's current base form without upgrades, it's a bit weak.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Originally posted by FICSIT Pioneer Snow:

The Targeting mode needs to have Anti-Barrier applied to it in PvE, otherwise it may just be meh.

It has anti barrier intrinsically, not just on the sniper shot

[Trankhanhduyh]

its boring at best and ♥♥♥♥ at worst. Lacking behind legendary weapons and just a pulse rifle version of the vex mythoclass but much worse "oh but its only require crit hit instead of kills" tell me how many time do you get out of a fight in pvp without one side die ? You pretty much kill them or end up on the scoreboard yourself

[Nero]

It will be an interesting choice for grandmasters. People who don‘t like wishender now have another primary anti barrier choice and imo rev zero was tailored for slower, more tactical play

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by Nero:

It will be an interesting choice for grandmasters. People who don‘t like wishender now have another primary anti barrier choice and imo rev zero was tailored for slower, more tactical play

You say that like even a single player would ever pick it over arbalest in any circumstance