Is Luna's Howl really worth the grind?

[Tom]

i just spent the last couple weeks grinding comp for this and i've used it for a few matches now, its decent yeah but it does not seem...great? i feel like rose or my crimil's dagger with snapshot opening shot would be better options. How do you use this thing effectively?

[Mez Koo]

No, there are a lot of competitive hand cannons now.

[ACEsino]

You never know maybe they would make non 150s good again

[-blam!-]

Luna's and NF are still solid hand cannons, but there are definitely better options.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by ACEsino:

You never know maybe they would make non 150s good again

They are 150s.

[ACEsino]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by ACEsino:

You never know maybe they would make non 150s good again

They are 150s.

Wait what they swapped them from 180?
Guess ill have to get those 20 last headshots now

[Tom]

I have yet to proc the howls perk so i can't get a real read on what it does, is it along the lines of two headshots makes the next shot do around 80 damage even on body? does the time on the perk get extended every time you get a kill with it allowing for multiple shots to get the benefit, or is it just the third shot as long as the last two were headshots?

[Lusus Symphonia]

Frees up space in your directory once you complete the quest, that's all I can think of.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by ACEsino:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

They are 150s.

Wait what they swapped them from 180?
Guess ill have to get those 20 last headshots now

It is that change that kind of killed them though. Before you could get quick headshots for the perk (which they also nerfed) now you'll just 3 head shot them to kill anyway.

[-blam!-]

Originally posted by Tom:

I have yet to proc the howls perk so i can't get a real read on what it does, is it along the lines of two headshots makes the next shot do around 80 damage even on body? does the time on the perk get extended every time you get a kill with it allowing for multiple shots to get the benefit, or is it just the third shot as long as the last two were headshots?

Every 2 headshots you get a massive boost to range and slightly increased bodyshot damage. And it's only the third shot, you cannot extend the duration of the perk or make it affect multiple shots.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Kaede:

Originally posted by Tom:

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Every 2 headshots you get a massive boost to range and slightly increased bodyshot damage. And it's only the third shot, you cannot extend the duration of the perk or make it affect multiple shots.

And the use of this perk is what exactly? if you were in a duel and got two headshots on them then presumably they are already within LH's standard range, i can see how the extra damage would be useful but if its only slightly more damage and only on body shot then wouldent you still be better off going for three headshots? Do you get two headshots on the one you are dueling then ignore them to use the extra range and damage to hit someone behind them? I just don't understand this weapon.

[Crayons]

There are so many god roll legendaries to use in that slot that i would use another one like Arbalist which is broken beyond the point of repair without taking the gun out of the game.

[Crayons]

You gotta consider the chances of you getting hit as well. If you are dodging and weaving the other person's shots, your gonna get more "DPS" (damage per second) off than the other person likely resulting in a win for you. In all reality there's only one good option for primes and that's Arb. Secondary would be any energy pulse since energy pulse's are crazy. Just get one with a nice range roll and masterwork (Full Bore/Armor-Piercing Rounds) and rate of fire. Another thing: Pulse rifles mess with the attacker's aim (flinch) and in destiny it's really bad.

[Tom]

Thing is...Luna's Howl is for the energy weapon slot so you can run it with arbalist which is what im doing now, but i think recluse and arbalist would be a better combo.

[-blam!-]

Originally posted by Tom:

Originally posted by Kaede:

Every 2 headshots you get a massive boost to range and slightly increased bodyshot damage. And it's only the third shot, you cannot extend the duration of the perk or make it affect multiple shots.

And the use of this perk is what exactly? if you were in a duel and got two headshots on them then presumably they are already within LH's standard range, i can see how the extra damage would be useful but if its only slightly more damage and only on body shot then wouldent you still be better off going for three headshots? Do you get two headshots on the one you are dueling then ignore them to use the extra range and damage to hit someone behind them? I just don't understand this weapon.

Yeah you should still be going for 3taps. The range bonus does let you duel at further ranges than some other hand cannons, however it doesn't make a huge difference iirc. (I dont have any numbers to back this up though.)
There is no point in going for bodyshots, so that part of the perk is just a safety net incase you miss the head. Though, I can only remember 1 time it's actually helped me within the past few months, and I do use NF/LH quite a bit.

As I said earlier, it is a solid hand cannon, but you can't really treat it differently than any other 150 most of the time.

[Crayons]

Originally posted by Tom:

Thing is...Luna's Howl is for the energy weapon slot so you can run it with arbalist which is what im doing now, but i think recluse and arbalist would be a better combo.

yea recluse arb is really nice, or a sniper from the black foundry