If ikelos weapons are braytech does that make raspuitin part vex?

[Potatochobit Lv3 pwrd Next Form]

since we know exo and the sword lament were all created from vex fundamentals
does that make rasputin a branch of vex?
we learned alot of back story in beyond light that it was clovis bray that brought the darkness and vex towards our solar system.

[EckyThump]

There's a lore entry where some researchers are studying the first captured 'live' Vex specimen, and discussed using a Warmind to assist, as it was something too complex for a Vex simulation.
https://www.destinypedia.com/Grimoire:Enemies/Vex#Ghost_Fragment:_Vex

That tells me that Warminds were around before humanity's contact with the Vex.

[Mez Koo]

Rasputin and Exos were made before the Vex stuff.

[Nakos]

Rasputin was (is) the Warmind. He was the only Warmind that survived the Golden Age (as far as we know (as far as *I* know)). Bungie's history contains other massive, super-powerful AI's. How closely those overlap between the various games Bungie has created is ... subject to a bit of interpretation.

Personally? I prefer to imagine that Rasputin's history goes all the way back to Durandal, Leela and Tycho. (but there's nothing to back that up, it's just me cheerfully recalling all the fun I had in Marathon 2: Durandal).

Originally posted by Bob:

Frog Blast the vent core!

[Delta]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Rasputin and Exos were made before the Vex stuff.

Half Wrong.

Beyond Light lore states that Exos didn't exist until Clovis Bray captured Vex and drained them of their Vex Milk and mixed it with Darkness to make a new substance that is in Exos and stops them from going crazy and ripping themselves apart.

[DakotaThrice]

Originally posted by Delta:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Rasputin and Exos were made before the Vex stuff.

Half Wrong.

Beyond Light lore states that Exos didn't exist until Clovis Bray captured Vex and drained them of their Vex Milk and mixed it with Darkness to make a new substance that is in Exos and stops them from going crazy and ripping themselves apart.

Half wrong yourself. Exo's as we know them now didn't exist till that point but Exo's existed before that point.

[EckyThump]

Yeah, the Exo project was definitely a thing before contact with the Vex. Clovis Bray was trying to transfer human minds into robot bodies, but it always ended in failure, they always ended up in a degenerative mental state, literal zombies.

Clovis, under the influence of 'Clarity' (the spooky statue before the Atraks encounter in Deep Stone Crypt) arranged for a 'live' Vex to be stolen from the researchers I mentioned in my previous post. From this, he built the Vex Gate on Europa, and by modifying Vex radiolaria, he created a substance called Alkahest. Exposing Exo hardware to it, solved the above problem.

The 'new' Exos suffered from a similar condition though, 'DER', a slow rejection of their artificial bodies. That could be solved via a reset, and by programming in various human-like quirks and functions, unneccesary for a tireless robot body, (like eating, sleeping) to keep the brain fooled.

So yeah, all 'modern' Exos have a Vex origin, with maybe (?) the single exception of Ada-1, an experimental Exo body created on Earth during the Collapse by the Black Armory founders (one of whom used to work for Clovis, interestingly enough). We don't know for sure though.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Delta:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Rasputin and Exos were made before the Vex stuff.

Beyond Light lore states that Exos didn't exist until Clovis Bray captured Vex and drained them of their Vex Milk and mixed it with Darkness to make a new substance that is in Exos and stops them from going crazy and ripping themselves apart.

Exos existed before that, "Clarity" just made them the stable masterpieces we see today.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by EckyThump:

the single exception of Ada-1, an experimental Exo body created on Earth during the Collapse by the Black Armory founders

Wasn't she also transferred as a child? Her brain could've been more receptive to change and got used to the body growing up sort of like going through puberty in a way.