Lorely sneaky nerf, Bungie did it again

[FFrazien]

Just a reminder to all my Titan players, Bungie has gutted us once again, this time they didn't even bothered putting it in the patch notes! So we no longer have Restoration x2 with Lorely, now we have only Restoration x1. So glad Solar TItan got gutted for harder difficulties, what was seriously #1 problem in the game! It is amazing to me how we Titans, being the least played race, we are just not allowed to enjoy the game, it's a parody at this point lmao.

The so called "Arc 3.0" or how else I like to call it "everyone gets update except Titans", I mean they didn't even buffed Ballistic Slams' dmg it doesn't do ANYTHING except killing ads, it's perks are GONE. Thunderclap is cool and all but in high tier Nightfalls you literally DIE before it's even charged to the maximum, not to mention Hunter kiddies get a whole new fancy ult that out damages Thundercrash, so to even be viable as Thundercrash player I MUST run an exotic (Curiass).

There is clearly a anti bias towards Titans for some weird reason, probably because we play a vanilla class we don't just fly and jump around brainlessly and then call ourselves "skilled in the game". Really giving up on this game, why don't you just delete Titans as a class overall Bungie ? So everyone can abuse warlocks and hunters, abuse mobility in a already fast paced game, truly skilled.

[Reife]

Messaggio originale di LORDOFBATTLEPRIME:

Well yea there is a bias, the bias is that at least four of the devs main hunters and 90% of the population play hunters...because playing a hunter requires no skill or thought process, it's button masher easy. Each element has fragments that allows the hunter to excel at anything and everything without any thought and they have multiple exotics that "just happen to work perfectly" with different builds. When the dev said "We were going to make grappling Hunter only"; during the Lightfall interview, that showed me where their focus is when it comes to classes. Just Sayin'

So much misinformation here. 90% of the population are not hunters. Hunters have traditionally been screwed in upper level content until Void 3.0 came out. Solar Hunters were awesome, until classy restoration went away. The only complaint I have about playing my titan rn is the same as always. Well of Radiance is just absolutely better than any other subclass for both group and solo activities. So my complaint is not even with Titan, it is just that Well is insanely good.

[Techno2k8]

Messaggio originale di Reife:

It was a well needed nerf. Was running my titan the other day and we tried to wipe in KF (with no rocket or place to jump off) and it took the adds and the boss about 3 mins to kill me sitting still.

Bull!

It's easy, take the helmet off easy!

[Reife]

If there is any bias towards a group, it's Warlocks. Dawnblade reigned supreme in PvP from the day they did the "Go fast update" and Icarus Dash was introduced. Shadebinder was insane in PvP (as was shatter hunter tbf and behemoth), Well of Radiance has been busted, and still is busted since it's inception. Devourlock is still an excellent all around and upper level play set. Arc Warlocks are great rn. Every speed run team you see is made up of either all Warlocks. Titans and hunters occasionally have a busted exotic, but their base setups are usually not busted. Warlocks have been busted on all 3 subclasses at multiple points in time.

[Reife]

Messaggio originale di Techno2k8:

Messaggio originale di Reife:

It was a well needed nerf. Was running my titan the other day and we tried to wipe in KF (with no rocket or place to jump off) and it took the adds and the boss about 3 mins to kill me sitting still.

Bull!

It's easy, take the helmet off easy!

I wanted to see how long I lived sitting still.

[Atlas]

Messaggio originale di Cruddy horse:

If you needed Loreley you were never a true Titan player to begin with.

agreed, i still yet to even grind for it, i.e. cuz im arc build

[The Vengeful Sins]

Loreley is fine, slap on Well of restoration and you barely notice it at all, and besides why rely on that crutch, slap on Synthoceps, or forgo any nice fashion and wear the heart of inmost light, those 2 exotics are IMO the cream of the crop, the ''I MAKE IT WORK'' the ''Atleast im not a hunter or a warlock'' :D

[Brohan Creates]

Messaggio originale di The Vengeful Sins:

Loreley is fine, slap on Well of restoration and you barely notice it at all, and besides why rely on that crutch, slap on Synthoceps, or forgo any nice fashion and wear the heart of inmost light, those 2 exotics are IMO the cream of the crop, the ''I MAKE IT WORK'' the ''Atleast im not a hunter or a warlock'' :D

This. From what I been hearing since the 3.0 updates, Synthoceps and Inner most light are now KING for Titans. Hell Dunemarchers I even heard now has a new life given to it. It's like when new OP Exotic Armors come out, the bad Titan Players use them to feel powerful but when they are needed balancing, they ♥♥♥♥♥. Here is the thing. The exotics were NEVER MEANT to be the focal point of any build. Only to be an added BONUS. This is what people don't understand. Many big name players and streamers and youtubers have said this COUNTLESS times but it goes on deaf ears. At the end of the day, it is the PLAYER that makes the class, not the gear. Gear is just an added bonus.

[legaroojack]

Oh no they nerfed something that was broken op allowing you to become neigh immortal. Oh no how sad for titans, they truly are the most hated class.

[Techno2k8]

Messaggio originale di Peoples Republic of North Korea:

Oh no they nerfed something that was broken op allowing you to become neigh immortal. Oh no how sad for titans, they truly are the most hated class.

Please tell me when the last time Hunters or Warlocks had a nerf which made them worse off?

The last one I can think of for Warlocks was the "Auto-Reload" for Rifts and Hunters well I cannot think of a single one other than the boot's which meant supers were like 1000% stronger.

[OmeletteThief]

Messaggio originale di FFrazien:

PS: Oh wait but Void Titan can abuse over shields, I'm sure that's really healthy and the PvP community loves it, right guys ?

indeed, I hardly see anyone picking hunter or warlock in pvp, mostly pick void titan now

[legaroojack]

Messaggio originale di Techno2k8:

Messaggio originale di Peoples Republic of North Korea:

Oh no they nerfed something that was broken op allowing you to become neigh immortal. Oh no how sad for titans, they truly are the most hated class.

Please tell me when the last time Hunters or Warlocks had a nerf which made them worse off?

The last one I can think of for Warlocks was the "Auto-Reload" for Rifts and Hunters well I cannot think of a single one other than the boot's which meant supers were like 1000% stronger.

I dont see how that changes what i said. But there is absolutely no way that you can justify how broken loreley was. Just as an example of this was me testing it in a solo dungeon and being unkillable. The logic of " oh they must hate me because OP item X got nerfed and that was my crutch" is quite frankly childish. Every class believes the other classes to be the favorite, every class believes that theirs has a bias against it. Its nothing new and you need to grow up and learn to stop using OP items as a crutch.



Also here are two nerfs that warlocks got way after the autoloading well nerf. Icarus dash got nerfed with it being limited to 1 and the chaos reach area damage got nerfed so it didnt do things like kill around corners and through cover. Not to mention the soft nerf warlocks got to their super regen rates being tied more to primary kills than their actual int stat.
Heres one for hunters as well. A massive nerf to their stasis super with its speed, duration and tracking being nerfed. Oh wait I almost forgot the massive nerf they got to stasis dive meaning that its one shot potential got significantly reduced.

[(TTV)OnBrandRP]

Messaggio originale di Mez Koo:

Gutted us? The sunspot and restoration are still strong, I was out-healing a raid boss while just standing there dancing in front of it.

Gorgoroth I presume? Loreley even at X1 still out heals that bosses damage.

[tanksin]

it was always going to get nerfed, it made it hard for bosses to actually kill you to the point where you would need to remove it to die, still sad to see it nerfed because it was fun but it was inevitable

[Mez Koo]

Messaggio originale di bwamdumb:

Messaggio originale di Mez Koo:

Gutted us? The sunspot and restoration are still strong, I was out-healing a raid boss while just standing there dancing in front of it.

Gorgoroth I presume? Loreley even at X1 still out heals that bosses damage.

That's my point, it still heals plenty even with just x1

[Echo2Omega]

If only the change to Lorely was in the patch notes.

Oh wait. It was. Reed ing har d.

Not to mention players have been completing high level content (master raids, GM nightfalls etc) for 4 years BEFORE Lorely even was added to the game.

so ...