Destiny 2 needs to go to the subscription format.

[AlmightyLoaf64]

Controversial take, I know. But I think Destiny 2 would do a lot better with a subscription based format. Bungie can continue to make paid expansions (and lower the price back down to $30-40) while also delivering piecemeal DLCs such as Seasons, Dungeon Keys, and stuff such as the 30th Anniversary Pack as part of the subscription. Thoughts?

[Jaguar1973]

Destiny 2 is doing well with its current format, players actually buy the Expansions and get Season Passes, there are some that get the deluxe editions, so Bungie are doing very well in the making money area.

Besides Destiny 2 is not STO the Subscription format would not work and would most definately not go down well with players.

Still an interesting thought, but there are too many players who like the game the way it is.

[Nibbie]

I don't understand what that would accomplish. Destiny is already cheaper yearly than most subscription type games (in CAD, WoW ~$200, FF14 ~$200, ESO ~$170, D2 $125). If expansions weren't included, the subscription would have to be less than $10 a month for the game to be the same price as it is now. Why would that make a difference? Why would you want to be cut off from playing the game (or face other restrictions) if you stopped constantly paying for it? My own position is that I would probably just drop the game if it went subscription, I just generally hate that model.

[Burba]

You could offer a sub as an alternative to buying all the content (other than expansions) I am not sure how that would make Bungie more money though. Isn't buying a season pass just a three month sub if we look at it this way?

[Xam Huad]

Season pass is already alike said subscription service.
So, would say no need to change. we're already there.

DLC content should not be tied to subscription (season pass).
However. would like to add that certain Nightfalls (tied to DLC),
should become available if the person has season pass yet not the DLC
(as currently that feels like a direct kick in the face of season pass holders).
_ Especially with Beyond Light Nightfalls (bonus rewards this week for Glassway),
as not everyone has Beyond Light, since it is the most hated DLC of Destiny 2.

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

and force me to buy these dogsh*t seasons in order to keep playing? Hell no

[Nakos]

Originally posted by B-Rex:

Controversial take, I know. But I think Destiny 2 would do a lot better with a subscription based format. Bungie can continue to make paid expansions (and lower the price back down to $30-40) while also delivering piecemeal DLCs such as Seasons, Dungeon Keys, and stuff such as the 30th Anniversary Pack as part of the subscription. Thoughts?

No.

Why do people keep suggesting this?

The current model works quite well and costs us consumers LESS than a subscription based model would. It's an ala carte monetization that allows people to buy what they want and ignore what they don't. It also gives Bungie a more predictable revenue stream, which is better for them.

Why would you want to mess with that? What possible benefit would you see to that. Expansions ARE $40 USD now.

[Jaguar1973]

I did say things were good as they were did I not B-Rex, Bungie would lose more players if it went to the format you are asking about as players can save up money to get the latest Expansion and maybe a Season pass, but in today's economy very, very few could afford such a thing as subscription to an already sorted game model and Bungie does not want to lose paying players.

Just saying

[AlmightyLoaf64]

Originally posted by Nibbie:

I don't understand what that would accomplish. Destiny is already cheaper yearly than most subscription type games (in CAD, WoW ~$200, FF14 ~$200, ESO ~$170, D2 $125). If expansions weren't included, the subscription would have to be less than $10 a month for the game to be the same price as it is now. Why would that make a difference? Why would you want to be cut off from playing the game (or face other restrictions) if you stopped constantly paying for it? My own position is that I would probably just drop the game if it went subscription, I just generally hate that model.

Didn't ESO drop the subscription? Also after thinking about it I understand where you're coming from, I just kinda hate how every little thing in the game costs something and there seems to be no influx of content that benefits free-to-play players.

[AlmightyLoaf64]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Originally posted by B-Rex:

Controversial take, I know. But I think Destiny 2 would do a lot better with a subscription based format. Bungie can continue to make paid expansions (and lower the price back down to $30-40) while also delivering piecemeal DLCs such as Seasons, Dungeon Keys, and stuff such as the 30th Anniversary Pack as part of the subscription. Thoughts?

No.

Why do people keep suggesting this?

The current model works quite well and costs us consumers LESS than a subscription based model would. It's an ala carte monetization that allows people to buy what they want and ignore what they don't. It also gives Bungie a more predictable revenue stream, which is better for them.

Why would you want to mess with that? What possible benefit would you see to that. Expansions ARE $40 USD now.

Lightfall is gonna be $50, and $100 for the Annual Pass. Meaning they've raised the price by $30 technically. Honestly think that has something to do with the Sony acquisition but i'm not completely sure

[AlmightyLoaf64]

Originally posted by Xam Huad:

Season pass is already alike said subscription service.
So, would say no need to change. we're already there. :ClubberBeard:

DLC content should not be tied to subscription (season pass).
However. would like to add that certain Nightfalls (tied to DLC),
should become available if the person has season pass yet not the DLC
(as currently that feels like a direct kick in the face of season pass holders).
_ Especially with Beyond Light Nightfalls (bonus rewards this week for Glassway),
as not everyone has Beyond Light, since it is the most hated DLC of Destiny 2.

I think this is a great way of thinking about it. Also I hated Shadowkeep more than Beyond Light

[Nakos]

Originally posted by B-Rex:

Lightfall is gonna be $50, and $100 for the Annual Pass. Meaning they've raised the price by $30 technically. Honestly think that has something to do with the Sony acquisition but i'm not completely sure

No, Lightfall is $40 USD.

The BUNDLE is $50 because it includes S20.

The Annual Pass includes The Expansion, All Four Seasons, Two Dungeons and some other smaller content.

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

Originally posted by Nakos:

The BUNDLE is $50 because it includes S20.

But there is no option for LF standard. What difference does it make that they tacked on a season? To get LF, the bare minimum is 50

[Mez Koo]

100$ a year is already a subscription.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch:

What difference does it make that they tacked on a season?

Because you are getting $10 USD worth of content.

And yes, I'm well aware you don't think of it as valuable content. Your personal opinion on the relative (or absolute) value of Seasonal content isn't relevant to the discussion. The point is that Bungie has placed a monetary value on that content, and that's the plus $10 USD contributing factor to the difference between the basic pack being $40 vs $50.

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

Originally posted by Nakos:

And yes, I'm well aware you don't think of it as valuable content. Your personal opinion on the relative (or absolute) value of Seasonal content isn't relevant to the discussion.

I mean, it kinda is. The guy brought up that bungie was raising prices, making people pay more. If I have no option to skip the bundle, then Im forced to pay more. For all intents and purposes its a price hike. You cant say Lightfall is $40 usd when there is no way to get it for $40 usd