LFG is one of the worst experiences I've had in any online game

[Hunter]

Took 7 hours completing King's Fall with someone raging and leaving after every wipe. Also people not using push to talk with jet turbines blowing into their Turtle Beach microphones. Genuinely reminds me why I had quit in the first place.

[Oku]

Origineel geplaatst door Goosetave:

Origineel geplaatst door Emurinus:

Lfg can be hit or miss at times. Seems that this time it was a miss.

There's a factor in knowing how to recognize red flags : if you see a "kwtd have div" post for a raid, you can be 99% sure it won't be fun people.

The reason for that is “kwtd” means “know what to do” and is generally a farming run. People in those groups expect anybody who joins to be able to drop in and complete the encounters efficiently with no trouble. People either don’t realize that and join fresh to the raid, or they mistakenly believe “kwtd” means “I’ve done it once before and have a general idea of how it works”.

It gets progressively more and more frustrating for people trying to do farm runs and continuously getting people just looking for a quick clear carry that make the runs take 50 times as long as they should.

It’s never an excuse to be an outright ♥♥♥♥ to people, but when people don’t respect the parameters you’ve set for joining the fireteam, I can understand why people would get fed up and quit after a couple wipes that shouldn’t have happened.

[Duck_Tape9]

Origineel geplaatst door Goosetave:

Origineel geplaatst door Emurinus:

Lfg can be hit or miss at times. Seems that this time it was a miss.

There's a factor in knowing how to recognize red flags : if you see a "kwtd have div" post for a raid, you can be 99% sure it won't be fun people.

In all fairness, I've ran raids with people asking kwtd back when last wish was a hot commodity and actually had fun.
I get your point though, sometimes people are insufferable about it like screaming into the mic after one person dies.

[Goosetave]

Just to be clear, i got nothing against people who do KWTD runs, it is what it is, and it's as advertized in the title. It's more about what the title of a post tells you about the kind of attitude you can expect.
A KWTD run is, as said above, a farming run that seeks efficiency above all else, thus it's not what you should look at if you want a friendly and tolerent environement. It's not that you can't meet nice people in a KWTD, it's just that if that's what you want, you'll have better chances elsewhere.

The "must have Div" people can suck it tho ;)

[Mez Koo]

having kwtd in the title means nothing like that, they could be the 4 chilliest clan members in the world but they just don't want to explain anything and expect people who join to know what to do and have a brain

[Emurinus]

Origineel geplaatst door Goosetave:

Origineel geplaatst door Emurinus:

Lfg can be hit or miss at times. Seems that this time it was a miss.

There's a factor in knowing how to recognize red flags : if you see a "kwtd have div" post for a raid, you can be 99% sure it won't be fun people.

Idk. I've been in quite a few KTWD runs and they have been fairly chill. From personal experience, the toxic ones tend to be from the OPs themselves not knowing what to do and/or expecting to get carried.

[EASY PETE]

Amen

[Taniks the Abomination]

People that hate LFG dont have social skills. Ask them to stop or find a new more agreeable team.

ALL games are like this

[Videogame Jukebox]

Im getting nightmares from making parties in Final Fantasy 11 still....That game literally gave you one flag to tell the server you wanted to play lol.

[Hunter]

Origineel geplaatst door Taniks the Abomination:

People that hate LFG dont have social skills. Ask them to stop or find a new more agreeable team.

ALL games are like this

Yes, you're correct. Every person that can't put up with raging man-children obviously have no social skills. That's a very useful observation, thank you for sharing!

[Mystic]

KWTD have 5 clears or kick ... poster is 1530 with 0 clears.

[TotalTriscuit]

Origineel geplaatst door Mystic:

KWTD have 5 clears or kick ... poster is 1530 with 0 clears.

They have all the clears on their separate account, duh!

[xmishax]

Having no matchmaking sucks but understand the reason there is no matchmaking; raids are a large time commitment, and it's easier and generally smoother to just work with the same 5 other people than having people leave and new people join, having to re-explain mechanics and roles, etc.

That being said, raids can be annoying because some people just have zero pattern recognition skills or ability to learn. Unless you're literally mentally deficient it should not take more than two tries to fully understand your role in the raid and what to do. I've been there, the same useless idiot in the group making you wipe over and over for hours.

If people make you wipe more than like 10 times, just kick them and find someone else. You'll find raids a lot more enjoyable.

[MicroPiggie]

Origineel geplaatst door Dri:

This game not having accessible LFG is pretty much why numbers spike so much and dip to lows frequently. Other MMOs allow casuals to complete raids with very little hassle, and then provide the elite with ultra hard versions.

This game skips having an easy low-reward mode for casuals and just says "lmao screw you just get good and find a clan to drag you through".

Bungie has NOTHING to lose by introducing an easier version of raids, with lesser rewards, for LFG/casuals, and keeping the current versions as-is for clans/elite players. But they listen to the no-life 1% of the game and don't implement that.

These are the same people who keep crying that PvP is going to have proper matchmaking now. They won't be able to style on lesser players anymore.

[Father President]

It's horrible I agree.