Crafting Weapons not listed in Enclave / Triumphs

[leet]

The big question is:
Can you craft/shape weapons if the pattern is not listed in the enclave / triumphs list?
Even if you have lets say 3 or 5 Resonance versions of a gun?
I have 3 red resonance Funnelweb guns
i want my God Roll right now, been farming long enough now.
But its not listed as craftable... Wtf Bungie, if your RNG grants you enough resonance versions of the same gun, you should be able to craft it in the roll you want.

[Delta]

Crafting is only available for select special weapons.

[leet]

For selected Kinetic, Special and Heavy weapons*
yes, i know.
but it makes no sense.
Basically every Deepsight Resonance weapon wich is not listed in the enclave will just give you materials if you attune it. Even if you attune it 2, 3 or 5 times.
I dont get the point. Lets take Funnelweb as example. It drops as Deepsight Resonance Version. You cant craft it tho. Makes sense? No.

Hey, you never got your favorite gun in the game as a god-roll? Take this Deepsight Resonance version of the same gun, but you still cannot craft it if you attune it, even if we throw 5 of them at you :^)

[Kopejka]

Yeah that was a deliberate decision on their part. Probably wanted to start with a few weapons to see how the community adapts at first.
But they did say they will be adding more guns which we will be able to craft in the coming seasons, so there's that.

[leet]

Publicado originalmente por Kopejka:

Yeah that was a deliberate decision on their part. Probably wanted to start with a few weapons to see how the community adapts at first.
But they did say they will be adding more guns which we will be able to craft in the coming seasons, so there's that.

When the time comes they better credit the progress for the ones already attuned multiple times, if the gun becomes craftable \o/

[Kopejka]

Publicado originalmente por leet:

When the time comes they better credit the progress for the ones already attuned multiple times, if the gun becomes craftable \o/

Wishful thinking.
But knowing bungie, such scenarios will never be the case.

[EckyThump]

Publicado originalmente por leet:

When the time comes they better credit the progress for the ones already attuned multiple times, if the gun becomes craftable \o/

I highly doubt that anything is tracking those.

[Mez Koo]

Every weapon can be deepsight so you can get materials.

[Nakos]

And the number of weapons that can be made will probably expand with each season. Odds are good they only put in a few for S16 to see how it would go.

[leet]

In my dreams, all weapons ingame are craftable, if you get 2,3 or 5 of the same weapon, Deepsight Resonance version and attune them, you unlock the "pattern" to craft it.
This would raise the chances to get a god-roll, or just the roll you really want, rather then praying to RNGesus.
Gettin 5x Deepsight Resonance XYZ gun is higher then getting "the perfect roll".
plsbungieplsbungiepls

[9 Hound Pammer Time]

Publicado originalmente por Kopejka:

Yeah that was a deliberate decision on their part. Probably wanted to start with a few weapons to see how the community adapts at first.
But they did say they will be adding more guns which we will be able to craft in the coming seasons, so there's that.

No need to introduce more, with the drop rates as they are it'll take multiple seasons just to craft the ones already there.

[Chronic Complainer Reviews]

Publicado originalmente por Joe's.Iced.Coffee:

Publicado originalmente por Kopejka:

Yeah that was a deliberate decision on their part. Probably wanted to start with a few weapons to see how the community adapts at first.
But they did say they will be adding more guns which we will be able to craft in the coming seasons, so there's that.

No need to introduce more, with the drop rates as they are it'll take multiple seasons just to craft the ones already there.

That's not true. I just returned to D2 for WQ this week and I already got most of the weapons crafted except one of the weapons from wellspring and thanks to the Legendary Campaign hitting 1550 + was super easy. I even got my Glaive to level 30 just because it has been so fun to use.

[Nakos]

Publicado originalmente por leet:

In my dreams, all weapons ingame are craftable, if you get 2,3 or 5 of the same weapon, Deepsight Resonance version and attune them, you unlock the "pattern" to craft it.
This would raise the chances to get a god-roll, or just the roll you really want, rather then praying to RNGesus.
Gettin 5x Deepsight Resonance XYZ gun is higher then getting "the perfect roll".
plsbungieplsbungiepls

That's never going to happen. This is an ARPG. Killing stuff for loot (which has a high degree of randomness to it) is one of the primary carrots of the style of game.

The Relic will allow you to build bunch of weapons that are basically about as good as your average drop. It'll allow you to build a few weapons that are as good as really good drops. And ... maybe ... one or two that are really exceptional.

All while requiring harvesting of materials (which by the way, is a brilliant mechanic from a design perspective), and requiring leveling up those weapons, and requiring really rare mats to get the really exceptional stuff.

The Weapon Crafting Relic is meant as an adjunct to the existing RNG drops, not as a replacement.

[leet]

Publicado originalmente por Nakos:

Publicado originalmente por leet:

In my dreams, all weapons ingame are craftable, if you get 2,3 or 5 of the same weapon, Deepsight Resonance version and attune them, you unlock the "pattern" to craft it.
This would raise the chances to get a god-roll, or just the roll you really want, rather then praying to RNGesus.
Gettin 5x Deepsight Resonance XYZ gun is higher then getting "the perfect roll".
plsbungieplsbungiepls

It'll allow you to build a few weapons that are as good as really good drops.

lol.

So you tell me what SMG is as good as a Void Funnelweb with Subsistance and Frenzy, you can craft.
Dude, some weapons just are top... and most of the weapons you can craft imo are just flop

[leet]

IMO all of the craftable weapons, except of 4-5 wich you need for PvE (Palmyra, Explosive Personality, Thoughtless ) / PvP (Likely Suspect, Piece of Mind) are just trash as a random legendary you dismantle.

[Nakos]

Publicado originalmente por leet:

Publicado originalmente por Nakos:

It'll allow you to build a few weapons that are as good as really good drops.

lol.

So you tell me what SMG is as good as a Void Funnelweb with Subsistance and Frenzy, you can craft.
Dude, some weapons just are top... and most of the weapons you can craft imo are just flop

I was making a generalization. Of course you can think of specifics that are superior.

I'm just trying to explain where the devs are (probably) trying to position crafted weapons relative to drops. You're the one who wanted to replace drops entirely, I'm just telling you why it won't happen.