Renewal Grasps are worthless now.

[Demonetize China]

First the StompEEs nerf and now renewal grasps. All we have left is Wormhusk. Where is the variety Bungo? Hunters are severely limited in top tier PVP options. Warlocks and Titans have several options to choose from, Meanwhile I can 100% guarantee 90% of hunters will be using wormhusk in trials now.

I do agree the grasps needed tuning but Stomp-EEs were fine. My main issue is that Hunters don'y have many good options to choose from right now.

[EuclidAscension]

im using Graviton Forfeit and it's been good to me

[Demonetize China]

Originally posted by Lord and Savior, No ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

im using Graviton Forfeit and it's been good to me

Graviton is overkill for invis imo. Also, invis hunter is far less effective in high level PVP matches. Drewski said he's done with it recently

[Guars]

Yes because an exotic that made a 30 seconds grenade give you and your allies a 50% damage resistance, slowed your enemies to the point where they can only walk and jump 10 cm was 100% balanced and fair against other players, true

[Zach]

remove exotics from pvp.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Graviton Forfiet, Mask of Bakris, Wormhusk's Crown Young Ahamkara's Spine, Athrys's Embrace, Dragon Shadow, Lucky Pants, Gemini Jester, Frostees.

Yep, Hunters have absolutely nothing left to use

[Mez Koo]

Plenty of options, try them out.

Mask of Bakris, Fr0st-EE5, The Dragon's Shadow, The Sixth Coyote, Wormhusk Crown, Foetracer, Liar's Handshake, Athrys's Embrace, and the Bombardiers.

[newkies]

Renewal Grasps were busted; cry some more.

[Chariot]

Sometimes it's just annoying that hunters seem to always be first on the chopping block, Renewal grasps really were busted but lorely is still how it is and we've yet to be told how it will be nerfed, (if it even can be nerfed, sunspots are really powerful on their own)
whenever I played hunter i felt underwhelmed by every single exotic, so very few of them let you actively build into them and so many of them give you small bonuses compared to some warlock and titan exotics like stag, lorely, innermost light, There's a lot more for warlocks but i'm only touching the surface on it, while hunters are constantly lugged with afterthought exotics like blight ranger which definitely won't even be good during arc 3.0 as none of arc 3.0's supers can actually be reflected to benefit from blight ranger, of which will be super present in the crucible when it ends up dropping.

Hopefully by the end of Lightfall, Hunters will get some really viable exotics that can make builds, People say time and time again that there's super amazing hunter exotics, but none of them ever seem to be on par with anything warlocks or titans get, Hunters don't exactly have any neutral game weapon benefit exotics, Like the ones for warlock that recharge grenades on void kills and such, It's all passive bonuses or active bonuses.

[Demonetize China]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Plenty of options, try them out.

Mask of Bakris, Fr0st-EE5, The Dragon's Shadow, The Sixth Coyote, Wormhusk Crown, Foetracer, Liar's Handshake, Athrys's Embrace, and the Bombardiers.

I SAID TOP TIER OPTIONS. Wormhusk is the only option. Everything else u mentioned is B-Tier or less

[Fartex]

Originally posted by Solgaleo:

Sometimes it's just annoying that hunters seem to always be first on the chopping block, Renewal grasps really were busted but lorely is still how it is and we've yet to be told how it will be nerfed, (if it even can be nerfed, sunspots are really powerful on their own)
whenever I played hunter i felt underwhelmed by every single exotic, so very few of them let you actively build into them and so many of them give you small bonuses compared to some warlock and titan exotics like stag, lorely, innermost light, There's a lot more for warlocks but i'm only touching the surface on it, while hunters are constantly lugged with afterthought exotics like blight ranger which definitely won't even be good during arc 3.0 as none of arc 3.0's supers can actually be reflected to benefit from blight ranger, of which will be super present in the crucible when it ends up dropping.

Hopefully by the end of Lightfall, Hunters will get some really viable exotics that can make builds, People say time and time again that there's super amazing hunter exotics, but none of them ever seem to be on par with anything warlocks or titans get, Hunters don't exactly have any neutral game weapon benefit exotics, Like the ones for warlock that recharge grenades on void kills and such, It's all passive bonuses or active bonuses.

I fully agree, but my frostees build seems to be doing not bad to be fair. Not going to start talking about the grenade spamming it can do in pve ( i have had people asking me to stop throwing grenades lol) and no I don’t use shatterdive either.

But even being able to slow down other players is an advantage in a 1v1 as they can’t run for cover. Freezing other players, I’ve not see it happen in ages (must be the build?) but slowing them does help a lot.


Either way, hunters always get the short end of the stick, but let’s be honest... some nerfs needed to happen, hunters are OP in some cases.
Granted titans and locks always get away with more poo, but for me it’s just going to be another case of adapt and overcome

[Fartex]

Originally posted by Demonetize China:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Plenty of options, try them out.

Mask of Bakris, Fr0st-EE5, The Dragon's Shadow, The Sixth Coyote, Wormhusk Crown, Foetracer, Liar's Handshake, Athrys's Embrace, and the Bombardiers.

I SAID TOP TIER OPTIONS. Wormhusk is the only option. Everything else u mentioned is B-Tier or less

Why not try and make a “lesser” tier work for you?

It just seems to me that almost nobody is willing to play non meta, non S tier gear and builds. ☹️

[Demonetize China]

Originally posted by Fartex:

Originally posted by Demonetize China:

I SAID TOP TIER OPTIONS. Wormhusk is the only option. Everything else u mentioned is B-Tier or less

Why not try and make a “lesser” tier work for you?

It just seems to me that almost nobody is willing to play non meta, non S tier gear and builds. ☹️

Because I'm not Frostbolt and "lesser" tier does'nt cut it in Trials. Every class should have competitive options that are relatively on par with each other.

Hunters are easy to deal with in PVP because the only threat they present is being invis. No neutral game exotics. No ability regeneration. No Overshields. No Rifts, No 1 shot grenades etc.

[Mr. Figgles]

Imagine thinking stompees will be useless after the """"""""nerf""""""""

[SuperXtreme500]

Originally posted by Demonetize China:

First the StompEEs nerf and now renewal grasps. All we have left is Wormhusk. Where is the variety Bungo? Hunters are severely limited in top tier PVP options. Warlocks and Titans have several options to choose from, Meanwhile I can 100% guarantee 90% of hunters will be using wormhusk in trials now.

I do agree the grasps needed tuning but Stomp-EEs were fine. My main issue is that Hunters don'y have many good options to choose from right now.

Then nerf Wormhusk. Keep doing it until Hunters start branching out for once.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Demonetize China:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Plenty of options, try them out.

Mask of Bakris, Fr0st-EE5, The Dragon's Shadow, The Sixth Coyote, Wormhusk Crown, Foetracer, Liar's Handshake, Athrys's Embrace, and the Bombardiers.

I SAID TOP TIER OPTIONS. Wormhusk is the only option. Everything else u mentioned is B-Tier or less

They're only b tier for now because others were so dominant and people don't give them a chance. Bungie will also be adding air effectiveness bonuses to some exotics which will boost their neutral usefulness.