Titan shoulder charge and Ballistic punch not one shot even with exotics?

[Zed, Duke of Banville]

I just got the new expac yesterday and I have to say I am disappointed that I can't one shot with shoulder charge or ballistic punch with an exotic equipped to buff the damage. I seem to be constantly getting one shotted by shotguns and sniper rifles and some new hunter power all the time. Does anyone know the rationale behind this change? Even with 100 resilience it doesn't seem to matter. The ttk seems insane now even faster than COD

[Guars]

What are you using? Peregrine greaves require you to be on the air for the exotic perk to work and allow you to one shot players, for other exotics like Synthoceps and Dunemarchers your target has to be near 1-2 people for them to work

[Da Calibrator]

There's a theory that arc 3.0 prompted the change. That is, some significant boosts are expected to the striker titan class and so things are weakened first before they buff them again at a later time.

[Wild Raven]

i feel this. I use Dunemarchers and pair it with void shield bash for the arc chain and void explosion which sometimes instant kill my target(s) but its very inconsistent. However the shotties are a pain in the ass, even mid charge (making full contact) i get insta killed and my hit gets canceled out even though it made contact.

I do remember when shoulder rushes were insta kill on any subclass which to me was pretty fair, and one of the few things titans had going for them. With the new void stuff, titans are much more viable now, but still.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Da Calibrator:

There's a theory that arc 3.0 prompted the change. That is, some significant boosts are expected to the striker titan class and so things are weakened first before they buff them again at a later time.

Counter theory: hunters cried enough and couldn't be bothered to pick up a shotgun.

[Zed, Duke of Banville]

Originally posted by Guars:

What are you using? Peregrine greaves require you to be on the air for the exotic perk to work and allow you to one shot players, for other exotics like Synthoceps and Dunemarchers your target has to be near 1-2 people for them to work

Thanks for the input everyone. Guars I was using Dunemarches I will try out Peregrine Greaves. I really hope things get better for my striker in the future :>

[Dmformom]

Shoulder charges not one shotting makes no sense, other class abilities (throwing knife, handheld supernova) one shot but not shoulder charge? Shoulder charge is basically useless in trials/survival because you'll just get shotgunned. It seriously needs a buff

[[IDN/IDR] Átlās]

perhaps your opponet use "reduced close combat damage" mod, in chest armor i think.
Or there are hidden nerfs after that time recently "Titan charge/swing no longer 1 hit kill"..

...maybe lagg, lagg does made things super weird, even within split second, either hardware nor internet lagg

[Zed, Duke of Banville]

I think I'll have to stay away from PvP for my blood pressure levels until we see Arc 3.0

[Da Calibrator]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Da Calibrator:

There's a theory that arc 3.0 prompted the change. That is, some significant boosts are expected to the striker titan class and so things are weakened first before they buff them again at a later time.

Counter theory: hunters cried enough and couldn't be bothered to pick up a shotgun.

We'll see when arc 3.0 drops....

[Zach]

Originally posted by Dmformom:

Shoulder charges not one shotting makes no sense, other class abilities (throwing knife, handheld supernova) one shot but not shoulder charge? Shoulder charge is basically useless in trials/survival because you'll just get shotgunned. It seriously needs a buff

throwing knife requires aiming and has a long windup animation. handheld supernova takes a second to proc and often requires the person to be in cqc (think of it as a mini-nova). shoulder charge literally required no effort to aim just simply look in the general direction and melee. also lets not forget shoulder charge can blind, supress (weaken), and burn + allow for crits.

the nerf to its damage was necessary and its in a good place right now.

[Dmformom]

Originally posted by Zach:

Originally posted by Dmformom:

Shoulder charges not one shotting makes no sense, other class abilities (throwing knife, handheld supernova) one shot but not shoulder charge? Shoulder charge is basically useless in trials/survival because you'll just get shotgunned. It seriously needs a buff

throwing knife requires aiming and has a long windup animation. handheld supernova takes a second to proc and often requires the person to be in cqc (think of it as a mini-nova). shoulder charge literally required no effort to aim just simply look in the general direction and melee. also lets not forget shoulder charge can blind, supress (weaken), and burn + allow for crits.

the nerf to its damage was necessary and its in a good place right now.

Throwing knife has insane aim assist, you barely have to aim. Handheld is still very easy to use, it takes a bit more thought than the other two, sure.

Yeah SC can blind suppress and burn...if it hits. 9 times out of 10 you get shotgunned, and if it does hit, you wont kill them. Even if they dont immediately kill you, it takes long enough to be able to melee/shoot that you'll die without accomplishing anything.

Shoulder charge should one shot, IF it has a long cooldown.

[Zach]

Originally posted by Dmformom:

Originally posted by Zach:

throwing knife requires aiming and has a long windup animation. handheld supernova takes a second to proc and often requires the person to be in cqc (think of it as a mini-nova). shoulder charge literally required no effort to aim just simply look in the general direction and melee. also lets not forget shoulder charge can blind, supress (weaken), and burn + allow for crits.

the nerf to its damage was necessary and its in a good place right now.

Throwing knife has insane aim assist, you barely have to aim. Handheld is still very easy to use, it takes a bit more thought than the other two, sure.

Yeah SC can blind suppress and burn...if it hits. 9 times out of 10 you get shotgunned, and if it does hit, you wont kill them. Even if they dont immediately kill you, it takes long enough to be able to melee/shoot that you'll die without accomplishing anything.

Shoulder charge should one shot, IF it has a long cooldown.

aim assist or not you still have to aim the crosshair you cant just whip at their legs and get a headshot. shoulder charge was also easy to use in fact it was so easy all you had to do was run and hold W and press your melee key.

what does getting shotgunned have to do with its damage? people were getting pelted by shotties even when shoulder charge WAS a 1-hit. that doesn't mean they should un-nerf it because that will solve nothing. also you guys have an exotic that boosts its damage so logically it made sense to nerf it otherwise what was the point in using peregrine greaves? increase it's pve damage? what a top tier exotic.


also if you cant kill a guy who takes enough damage to be 1-tapped by majority of weapons then that's a player issue. try combining your charge with a punch or a special. seems like there are plenty of options.

[Dmformom]

Originally posted by Zach:

Originally posted by Dmformom:

Throwing knife has insane aim assist, you barely have to aim. Handheld is still very easy to use, it takes a bit more thought than the other two, sure.

Yeah SC can blind suppress and burn...if it hits. 9 times out of 10 you get shotgunned, and if it does hit, you wont kill them. Even if they dont immediately kill you, it takes long enough to be able to melee/shoot that you'll die without accomplishing anything.

Shoulder charge should one shot, IF it has a long cooldown.

aim assist or not you still have to aim the crosshair you cant just whip at their legs and get a headshot. shoulder charge was also easy to use in fact it was so easy all you had to do was hold W and press your melee key.

what does getting shotgunned have to do with its damage? people were getting pelted by shotties even when shoulder charge WAS a 1-hit. doesn't mean they should un-nerf it because that will solve nothing. also you guys have an exotic that boosts its damage so logically it made sense to nerf it otherwise what was the point in using peregrine greaves? increase it's pve damage? what a top tier exotic.

At least when SC was one shot, you could at least GET a kill with it...

[Dmformom]

Originally posted by Dmformom:

Originally posted by Zach:

aim assist or not you still have to aim the crosshair you cant just whip at their legs and get a headshot. shoulder charge was also easy to use in fact it was so easy all you had to do was hold W and press your melee key.

what does getting shotgunned have to do with its damage? people were getting pelted by shotties even when shoulder charge WAS a 1-hit. doesn't mean they should un-nerf it because that will solve nothing. also you guys have an exotic that boosts its damage so logically it made sense to nerf it otherwise what was the point in using peregrine greaves? increase it's pve damage? what a top tier exotic.

At least when SC was one shot, you could at least GET a kill with it...

And there are plenty of exotics that are only good in pvp or pve...so that's not really a valid argument. Peregrine was strong enough to let you one shot champions in endgame pve