why do people do this

[machinegun]

they treat the game like its competitive in 6v6. you know, (about to paraphrase coolguy), if you are playing to be competitive, you are playing the wrong game.

[Mez Koo]

There are two groups of people that play destiny 2 PvP:

The sweat that actually enjoys it and always plays to win and get that k/d.

And then there is the average player that is in PvP to complete an objective and then get out.

And even the average player is still trying to win, if you don't like losing then go back to pve.

[Blazed_minD]

Peer to peer with the ability for 6 players (usually all from one clan) to team stack against a random group of scrubs? It's pretty obvious who will get host. For a mode that's pvp based there is absolutely nothing competitive about it, it's a one sided stack with an obvious outcome.

I understand people want to play with the best possible odds to win, sure, but this is beyond a joke when it comes to delivering a balanced pvp experience. The biggest annoyance is these "average" players are forced to face this BS just to finish an exotic quest for example.

[Oku]

Originally posted by machinegun:

they treat the game like its competitive in 6v6. you know, (about to paraphrase coolguy), if you are playing to be competitive, you are playing the wrong game.

"Why are people playing to win instead of intentionally throwing so I can have free wins?"

[Grumm]

Because winning is more fun than losing regardless of game

[Blazed_minD]

Originally posted by Turles:

Sweating on Destiny 2 crucible just so you can T-Bag players who are either casual and just wanted some pvp fun, or people who just wanna complete a challenge and leave. it also can become infuriating when it feels like your teammates vanish out of nowhere

Exactly.

[grumpstar]

imo the sweatiness comes from the proliferation of influencers and youtuber saturation making the equivalent of some sort of basement dweller living dreaming of the big time 'pro gamer' shills. those people love pvp. I really dont think anyone else does. but they are there to tell you feel bad becasue you suck noob.

[Blazed_minD]

Originally posted by Turles:

seriously I had many moments where I could only see one teammate and they were trying to cap point C, I was trying to get B but despite the amount of ruthless medals I got I was still killed in the end as my other teammates were off in west Bubblef*ck

Sometimes I don't even get that lucky, generally I lose 1 to 2 players straight off the bat because they've seen that we are up against a pre-made, which then put's the rest of the team at a disadvantage right from the word go..

[Rasluka]

I only ever play pvp just to get catalysts, on 6v6 control. I can't imagine how sweaty the 'hardcore' pvp playlists are if the 'casual' ones are this crazy.
Everyone's jumping and sliding around like a hyperactive gerbil, only using meta weapons and i'm usually dead before i can even fire a shot.
Then when i do get my one kill of the match with my pve weapon, i get to read some hilarious hate mail.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Turles:

Originally posted by Keth:

"Why are people playing to win instead of intentionally throwing so I can have free wins?"

this reply is pretty simple minded. the guy is just talking about how sweaty the crucible can be which it can be a literal nightmare. (I got into 3 v 3 Elimination where my other two teammates were level 1 warlocks, we did good for one game then got beat, then I proceeded to match with them again and they were now level 2 but we still lost) thing is that its just a skill gap with those players. With OP Idk what level he is but he does Kind of have a point, Sweating on Destiny 2 crucible just so you can T-Bag players who are either casual and just wanted some pvp fun, or people who just wanna complete a challenge and leave. it also can become infuriating when it feels like your teammates vanish out of nowhere (specifically control) but I still find dabbing on the Points and confusing the enemy as rather fun.

Literally nobody “sweats” over this game except the people enraged that somebody else is better than them and come to the forums to complain about it.

The idea of “sweaty tryhards” is a boogeyman where people look at somebody playing better than they are and imagine “clearly they are panting and struggling like their life depends on this match because that’s the only way I can possibly envision somebody winning against me.”

Everybody is just sitting around having fun. Some people have fun playing PvP enough that they got good at it and instinctively know how to react to any given situation. Especially in control where everybody goes brain off and just plays whatever without thinking about it.

Everybody wants to win. Everybody is going I try to win at least a little bit. You want to know how to “play against sweats”? You realize that the only person sweating here is you, as it takes more effort to come up with an excuse to blame that it does to just play the game and improve at it over time.

[R A Z E R]

Originally posted by machinegun:

they treat the game like its competitive in 6v6. you know, (about to paraphrase coolguy), if you are playing to be competitive, you are playing the wrong game.

Because PvP is PvP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[PhellAsleep]

Originally posted by machinegun:

they treat the game like its competitive in 6v6. you know, (about to paraphrase coolguy), if you are playing to be competitive, you are playing the wrong game.

Nah, they're just a different type of player than you. And as long as they pay, Bungie is willing to support them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxpW2ltDNow

[Emurinus]

Why are the people who complain about sweats end up sweating more than them?

[Oku]

Originally posted by Turles:

Originally posted by Keth:

Literally nobody “sweats” over this game except the people enraged that somebody else is better than them and come to the forums to complain about it.

The idea of “sweaty tryhards” is a boogeyman where people look at somebody playing better than they are and imagine “clearly they are panting and struggling like their life depends on this match because that’s the only way I can possibly envision somebody winning against me.”

Everybody is just sitting around having fun. Some people have fun playing PvP enough that they got good at it and instinctively know how to react to any given situation. Especially in control where everybody goes brain off and just plays whatever without thinking about it.

Everybody wants to win. Everybody is going I try to win at least a little bit. You want to know how to “play against sweats”? You realize that the only person sweating here is you, as it takes more effort to come up with an excuse to blame that it does to just play the game and improve at it over time.

sorry to say it but, this entire reply was just a whole bunch of "I don't believe you grr grr >:(" and childish. if you wanna say sweats don't exist in destiny's crucible I don't know what disillusioned reality you're living in. so please avoid further comments with baseless faulty claims and not only that but accusing me of "sweating" really wasn't smart as was this entire reply as I had stated my experience before and thus contradicted your "sweats don't exist" comment. Next time do your research but until then please don't respond on this thread as you clearly know very little with this sad "excuse" of a comeback to my comment stating the truth of many players experiences and also refrain from using such hilariously bad arguments such as "Oh but if he's good against me he's obviously sweating!" when clearly nothing I said indicated that and Neither did OP's post, everyone may want to win at the end of the day but its obvious destiny has quite a few sweaty individuals in the crucible. Have a good day! :D

Sorry to say it but, this entire reply was just a whole bunch of "EVERYBODY THAT PLAYS BETTER THAN ME IS A SWEATY TRYHARD NO LIFE THAT PLAYS LIKE THEIR LIFE DEPENDS ON THE MATCH THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE SWEATY IS TO INTENTIONALLY PLAY BADLY SO I CAN WIN".

The whole idea of a "sweat" is somebody putting in so much effort and strain in to playing a game that they experience physical fatigue and begin sweating. Nobody does that. The closest you get to that is pro players for games with Esports scenes playing on a stage for an audience of hundreds of thousands of people in personal and online.

Your "experience" is you going in to crucible and people playing better than you, and you coming up with a ridiculous ad-hominem insult to throw at them in an attempt to try to make them out to be villains for the crime of not intentionally throwing the match and playing worse on purpose just to give you specifically a better chance of winning.

And yes, you and the op did go "oh he's better than me so he's sweating". There, literally, is nothing else to go off of other than crucible performance. You aren't watching them in person, you don't know what they look like, you don't know what they're feeling or what their physical state is. All you have to go off of is how good they're doing and what actions they take in Crucible because nothing else exists.

[Chariot]

Originally posted by Keth:

Originally posted by Turles:

this reply is pretty simple minded. the guy is just talking about how sweaty the crucible can be which it can be a literal nightmare. (I got into 3 v 3 Elimination where my other two teammates were level 1 warlocks, we did good for one game then got beat, then I proceeded to match with them again and they were now level 2 but we still lost) thing is that its just a skill gap with those players. With OP Idk what level he is but he does Kind of have a point, Sweating on Destiny 2 crucible just so you can T-Bag players who are either casual and just wanted some pvp fun, or people who just wanna complete a challenge and leave. it also can become infuriating when it feels like your teammates vanish out of nowhere (specifically control) but I still find dabbing on the Points and confusing the enemy as rather fun.

Literally nobody “sweats” over this game except the people enraged that somebody else is better than them and come to the forums to complain about it.

The idea of “sweaty tryhards” is a boogeyman where people look at somebody playing better than they are and imagine “clearly they are panting and struggling like their life depends on this match because that’s the only way I can possibly envision somebody winning against me.”

Everybody is just sitting around having fun. Some people have fun playing PvP enough that they got good at it and instinctively know how to react to any given situation. Especially in control where everybody goes brain off and just plays whatever without thinking about it.

Everybody wants to win. Everybody is going I try to win at least a little bit. You want to know how to “play against sweats”? You realize that the only person sweating here is you, as it takes more effort to come up with an excuse to blame that it does to just play the game and improve at it over time.

Good player ≠ Sweat

[Blazed_minD]

Interesting, there seems to be an avoidance answering points made about team stacking, the peer to peer based pvp system (with team stacking), oh and my personal favourite, console player's stacking for aim assistance.

Does this seriously sound like a bunch of skilled players, or sweats just fixing odds?

I've been pvp gaming for over 20 years, do you know what "used" to define a skilled player?

Someone who could own running around with the "exact same loadout" as everyone else, no meta, no advantages and no stacked odds.

These day's there seems to be a serious misunderstanding between what an actual skilled player is and a P2W Sweat.