Crow

[Pain Weasel]

So at some point a writer thought: You know what this game needs? A whiny, emo jackass. I mean the Drifter is a douchebag but he just doesn't resonate with the tween girl demographic. Besides, everybody loves the trope of an overly emotional, tragic character haunted by his past deeds right? Yeah, and lets have him constantly cry to the players with unskippable dialog. If we call him Poe is that too on the nose? Probably, lets go with CROW! Oh, and give him an early aughts douchebag haircut just in case we haven't made it clear what kind of character he is. Perfect, now I'm off to watch Vampire Diaries and cut myself, so I can FEEL something!!!

tldr; Crow sucks and I want to murder him.

[Nakos]

Well ... okay then.

Good talk, thanks.

[Console Cowboy]

Show me on the doll where the emo touched you.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

You can ignore why Crow's like this for your argument, but I won't :)

You try imagining what it's like to wake up one day, not knowing who you are, being hated by everyone for seemingly no reason, having to to hide your face everywhere you go, being told how to act, and speak. Then you get all your past memories back of who you were, what you've done.
Crow's trying to deal with what Uldren's done, on top of his current life.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Anti Homeless Rock:

You can ignore why Crow's like this for your argument, but I won't :)

You try imagining what it's like to wake up one day, not knowing who you are, being hated by everyone for seemingly no reason, having to to hide your face everywhere you go, being told how to act, and speak. Then you get all your past memories back of who you were, what you've done.
Crow's trying to deal with what Uldren's done, on top of his current life.

And that caused him to grab the hair gel, comb it over his eyes and mumble about his feelings to every passerby? Can't he just suffer in silence. Maybe write some bad poetry and leave the rest of us in peace.

Seriously though, putting aside his absurd appearance and personality, his sympathy for the Hive, but not all the Hive is more annoying than anything.

Invading their minds is somehow worse than the tens of thousands I've killed more or less for fun? I get a new gun and I take it out to shoot some Hive in the face just to see how it work, not because doing so saves humanity. I've burned them alive, chopped them up, smashed their ghosts and killed them in every way possible all because I'm greedy and want some glimmer and Crow in his moody self pitying ways thinks we are friends or something. If Crow dropped a good gun I'd shoot him too, well, I'd do that one even for no loot simply because he wont shut up.

Maybe he should learn to read the room and keep quiet, thats all I'm saying. Well, that and he sucks.

[Console Cowboy]

Yeah because a bright blue bald commander, Eastern European emotional pigeon fancier, roidrage infused fitness instructor, space pirate, and Japanese porcelain wearing Exo are all completely normal looking individuals.

Like seriously, what My Chemical Romance song has triggered you so? We can work through this together, as a community.

Also, you're questioning your actions as an action gamer, in a game where the majority of tasks involve mass shootings, and comparing it to a narrative that tentatively weaves said killing sprees together. It's called character building. You may not like it, and lord knows I'm getting hints you don't, but apart from needing a slap for his whining now and then, I've met worse.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Console Cowboy:

Yeah because a bright blue bald commander, Eastern European emotional pigeon fancier, roidrage infused fitness instructor, space pirate, and Japanese porcelain wearing Exo are all completely normal looking individuals.

Like seriously, what My Chemical Romance song has triggered you so? We can work through this together, as a community.

Also, you're questioning your actions as an action gamer, in a game where the majority of tasks involve mass shootings, and comparing it to a narrative that tentatively weaves said killing sprees together. It's called character building. You may not like it, and lord knows I'm getting hints you don't, but apart from needing a slap for his whining now and then, I've met worse.

You forgot the creepy, magic obsessed goth on the moon.

That being said, maybe I do like character building. The character I'm apparently building is a loot hungry psychopath with a penchant for genocide.

edit: while we are at it, imagine people like guardians. Immortal more or less, spend every day killing not just enemies but friends too. I mean the sport of the day is essentially murder ball. The workers around the tower talk about the Crucible like its pure entertainment, not repeatedly killing your friends. They mention Guardian suicide like it is little more than hassle to clean up. What kind of impact would that have on the psyche of the guardians as a whole? At the very least it would devalue life if you have died a thousand times and killed more than you can count.

Looking at Crow from that perspective makes me think he just needs to die a few more times and maybe massacre a village of Fallen to work that guilt out of his system like the rest of us.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by Anti Homeless Rock:

You can ignore why Crow's like this for your argument, but I won't :)

You try imagining what it's like to wake up one day, not knowing who you are, being hated by everyone for seemingly no reason, having to to hide your face everywhere you go, being told how to act, and speak. Then you get all your past memories back of who you were, what you've done.
Crow's trying to deal with what Uldren's done, on top of his current life.

Originally posted by Crow:

... now I know why you always looked at me that way ...

[Mez Koo]

Basic character development, make the character crappy to start with so it's easy to redeem/change/develop into a new/better character. They put him in this emo "this isn't a phase mom" state so that they could "wake him up to reality" at the cost of Saladin.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Originally posted by Turles:

I like how we arent gonna mention the guy running around as felwinter, I mean at that point the character might aswell still be alive because I see him shotgunning me mid-air with felwinters lie and felwinters helm, not to mention literally being named "Lord Felwinter"

We're ignoring that due to plot inconsistencies :)

[Don Sombrero]

Originally posted by Turles:

I like how we arent gonna mention the guy running around as felwinter, I mean at that point the character might aswell still be alive because I see him shotgunning me mid-air with felwinters lie and felwinters helm, not to mention literally being named "Lord Felwinter"

I wish for an actual Felwinter NPC... He can ♥♥♥♥-talk me all day.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Turles:

I like how we arent gonna mention the guy running around as felwinter, I mean at that point the character might aswell still be alive because I see him shotgunning me mid-air with felwinters lie and felwinters helm, not to mention literally being named "Lord Felwinter"

There was an Iron Lord named Felwinter. Felwinters helm is an exotic like helm of saint-14 and felwinters lie was essentially an exotic shotgun that came from a quest about him

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by Pain Weasel:

So at some point a writer thought: You know what this game needs? A whiny, emo jackass. I mean the Drifter is a douchebag but he just doesn't resonate with the tween girl demographic. Besides, everybody loves the trope of an overly emotional, tragic character haunted by his past deeds right? Yeah, and lets have him constantly cry to the players with unskippable dialog. If we call him Poe is that too on the nose? Probably, lets go with CROW! Oh, and give him an early aughts douchebag haircut just in case we haven't made it clear what kind of character he is. Perfect, now I'm off to watch Vampire Diaries and cut myself, so I can FEEL something!!!

tldr; Crow sucks and I want to murder him.

My god that first line had me absolutely dying.
I didn't need to read the rest, absolutely love it, have an award.

[Razgar Voxel]

Well if it is any consolation that whiny Emo Jackass was a Sarcastic Narcissistic Jackass with a Superiority Complex in the first game. You would have wanted to punch him in the face. Then again I like to think of Crow and Uldren as two different people.

[Nomeat710]

Hate to be bearer of bad news but rumors around the water jug is hes going to be the next hunter vanguard leader

[SomeBodyNow_67]

At least we did get to murder him.
And I want to do it again
Until Cayde comes back.