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Nemesis Mar 4, 2022 @ 1:07pm
Why does Bungie delete older stories?
I am asking me why Bungie is deleting the old part of the story? How should new player ever understand who cade 6 was or what happened before? As I see there is also no way to play it now or just see a video or am I wrong?
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Nakos Mar 4, 2022 @ 1:24pm 
Because it's the lesser of two evils.

It was older code written under Activision, it wasn't written for longevity (under Activision, S11 would have been the end of Destiny 2, with nothing carried forward). Updating that code would have been prohibitive in both time and money. Not impossible, but simply too expensive.

A large percentage of the games player base use consoles. Older consoles. Managing the game's demands on older hardware is a valid concern.

And, as Mez pointed out: Read what Bungie actually had to say on the subject rather than listening to rumor and hearsay.
Burba Mar 4, 2022 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by Mez Koo:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189
I would like to start by saying I do believe Destiny has this problem. I have no idea why they would lie about this. So I believe them when they say the content vault is needed.

What I do not understand about this is why other games seem to not have this problem. Or at least do not have the problem nearly as bad as Destiny seems to. There are many examples of this but ESO is one. ESO is a very large game that keeps getting larger and as far as I know does not need to vault content. Is it something to do with Destiny's engine?
trukr Mar 4, 2022 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by Burba:
Originally posted by Mez Koo:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189
I would like to start by saying I do believe Destiny has this problem. I have no idea why they would lie about this. So I believe them when they say the content vault is needed.

What I do not understand about this is why other games seem to not have this problem. Or at least do not have the problem nearly as bad as Destiny seems to. There are many examples of this but ESO is one. ESO is a very large game that keeps getting larger and as far as I know does not need to vault content. Is it something to do with Destiny's engine?

Destiny 2, is not those other games, it's Destiny 2.

ESO was built from the start with a long term plan to become very large, Destiny 2 started out a throw away game to be replaced with Destiny 3 (Activision's idea).

They had two choices, neither very good. They could have stopped work on Destiny 2 and started working on Destiny 3, or they could cut off some old content that was holding up development on the old engine that came from HALO and start making the game better. If they had started work on Destiny 3, we would be left with Destiny 2 with little to no updates and a wait, for what, two or three years for them to make a new game and then we could hear AGAIN how our vault was somehow destroyed and we start over.

I personally prefer the choice they made.
Jub Mar 4, 2022 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
I am asking me why Bungie is deleting the old part of the story? How should new player ever understand who cade 6 was or what happened before? As I see there is also no way to play it now or just see a video or am I wrong?
Cayde has no bearing on the story anymore why does he matter
Razgar Voxel Mar 4, 2022 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by Nakos:
Because it's the lesser of two evils.

It was older code written under Activision, it wasn't written for longevity (under Activision, S11 would have been the end of Destiny 2, with nothing carried forward). Updating that code would have been prohibitive in both time and money. Not impossible, but simply too expensive.

A large percentage of the games player base use consoles. Older consoles. Managing the game's demands on older hardware is a valid concern.

And, as Mez pointed out: Read what Bungie actually had to say on the subject rather than listening to rumor and hearsay.

Pretty much

I played this game originally over on the PlayStation 4 when it first came out. I noticed load times were significantly longer over on Console before Shadowkeep had came out. sometimes loading into a strike or other activity would take around 3 or 4 mins sometimes. As well as get hung in the transition where you just see your ship flying in aimlessly forever. I have the game on more then just PC but I mostly play it here. But my character is from the PS version. But this is besides the point. Point is the older consoles can't handle the demands the game has. So sadly content had to be vaulted. Do I agree with it? Not really but the game has come along way since D2 first launched.
Nemesis Mar 4, 2022 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Jublonski:
Originally posted by Nemesis:
I am asking me why Bungie is deleting the old part of the story? How should new player ever understand who cade 6 was or what happened before? As I see there is also no way to play it now or just see a video or am I wrong?
Cayde has no bearing on the story anymore why does he matter
Yes now the new dlc is out no more but in forsaken he had and nobody who started playing the game there knew who he is or was and that is more than sad for such a good character.
Originally posted by trukr:
we could hear AGAIN how our vault was somehow destroyed and we start over.
They made you restart your vault anyway
Last edited by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch; Mar 4, 2022 @ 2:21pm
trukr Mar 4, 2022 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch:
Originally posted by trukr:
we could hear AGAIN how our vault was somehow destroyed and we start over.
They made you restart your vault anyway

No, no they didn't.
Originally posted by trukr:
Originally posted by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch:
They made you restart your vault anyway

No, no they didn't.
go try to use some of your leviathan or black armory weapons in any content that matters, see how far you get. Aside from keeping them as trophies the old stuff is wasted space in a vault and arguably more worthless than D1 gear. At least I can bring D1 gear into D1 endgame content
Plus after enough weapons with origin traits are released any of those old weapons will become straight downgrades in casual
Last edited by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch; Mar 4, 2022 @ 4:37pm
Darigaaz Mar 4, 2022 @ 4:49pm 
Hope they come back after stuff comes out of the vault (maybe with improvements like the new campaign with normal/legendary)

[Alternative replayable in the extra NPC for it...]
Last edited by Darigaaz; Mar 4, 2022 @ 4:49pm
Crystal Sharrd Mar 4, 2022 @ 6:15pm 
Would love to replay the Red War sometime.
The Savage OJM Mar 4, 2022 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Burba:
Originally posted by Mez Koo:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189
I would like to start by saying I do believe Destiny has this problem. I have no idea why they would lie about this. So I believe them when they say the content vault is needed.

What I do not understand about this is why other games seem to not have this problem. Or at least do not have the problem nearly as bad as Destiny seems to. There are many examples of this but ESO is one. ESO is a very large game that keeps getting larger and as far as I know does not need to vault content. Is it something to do with Destiny's engine?


Simple answer: Yes. If Bungie decided to Make Destiny 3, they could fix a lot of those problems. But we the players would have to be willing to be reset again. Seeing the large backlash from D1 players (myself included), I doubt they want to make D3.
trukr Mar 5, 2022 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by NitoAndTheFunkyBunch:
Originally posted by trukr:

No, no they didn't.
go try to use some of your leviathan or black armory weapons in any content that matters, see how far you get. Aside from keeping them as trophies the old stuff is wasted space in a vault and arguably more worthless than D1 gear. At least I can bring D1 gear into D1 endgame content
Plus after enough weapons with origin traits are released any of those old weapons will become straight downgrades in casual

I have been using Recluse and Marty, you do know that that 1060/1260 means nothing with the floor at 1350, right? BIG difference in you gear is capped at some level and you have no gear. So no, they did not make me restart my vault, it would have been empty. On top of that, there was a lot in my vault when not affected by it, so yes, once again, they did not force me to restart my vault.
Black Hammer Mar 5, 2022 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Jublonski:
Originally posted by Nemesis:
I am asking me why Bungie is deleting the old part of the story? How should new player ever understand who cade 6 was or what happened before? As I see there is also no way to play it now or just see a video or am I wrong?
Cayde has no bearing on the story anymore why does he matter

Technically, Cayde is no longer dead, because they vaulted his death but he's still alive for some strikes.
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Date Posted: Mar 4, 2022 @ 1:07pm
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