The Forced PvP is getting tiresome

[MrJane]

Weekly Bounty for Twisted Energy this week is to kill other players with Supers. I don't want to do this. I should never be forced into PvP if it's an aspect of the game I don't want to play. So now I'm going to lose out on a ton of Energy, so I feel ripped of this week. Not cool Bungie.

[MrJane]

DanTheMan eredeti hozzászólása:

legit 2 pvp games and you have the bounty done. it's not hard.

Literally no one said it was hard. Again, it's just not fun. It's also unnecessary. Have PvP bounties for PvP activities, and PvE for the rest. Easy.

[Bluemenkranz]

Its a bounty, a single bounty, not a quest or anything but a bounty.
Doing Garden of Salvation every week for slightly better rolls on armour isnt fun, but we arent consistently ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about that now are we?

[MrJane]

Leliel eredeti hozzászólása:

Its a bounty, a single bounty, not a quest or anything but a bounty.
Doing Garden of Salvation every week for slightly better rolls on armour isnt fun, but we arent consistently ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about that now are we?

If it's not fun, why are you doing it? I'm not doing the bounty, because it's not fun. Seems pretty silly to play a video game when it's not fun. I'm complaining, because if this trend continues, I'll quit the game. I don't want to, but I don't play games if I'm not having fun.

[Super-XIX]

Skip it. I got like 4k materials for focusing engrams this week from the exotic quest, and I haven't even touched my other two characters.

[..:: eeZee ::..]

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

Weekly Bounty for Twisted Energy this week is to kill other players with Supers. I don't want to do this. I should never be forced into PvP if it's an aspect of the game I don't want to play. So now I'm going to lose out on a ton of Energy, so I feel ripped of this week. Not cool Bungie.

The PVP in this game, apparently, needs to be artificially populated with players going after the PVP-walled content and rewards.

So, you'll get matches with people actually enjoying PVP and doing their best that get matched up with people like me that really don't care about anything related to PVP except for the PVP walled loot/rewards.

Personally, I don't think that's a good thing. It isn't good match making, not fair for the team I'm in or a good game mechanic overall. But, hey, as long as I get my PVP-walled content... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Mez Koo]

Its a weekly bounty that you don't have to do, how is it "forced" pvp?

[MrJane]

Mez Koo eredeti hozzászólása:

Its a weekly bounty that you don't have to do, how is it "forced" pvp?

Because if you want the Twisted Energy for the week, you "have" to do PvP. Thought that was pretty obvious...

[Mez Koo]

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

Mez Koo eredeti hozzászólása:

Its a weekly bounty that you don't have to do, how is it "forced" pvp?

Because if you want the Twisted Energy for the week, you "have" to do PvP. Thought that was pretty obvious...

Decode Umbral engrams or use alternate characters if you really need twisted energy now for some reason, you don't "have" to do the pvp bounty this week if you don't want to and you could also just wait for the next set of bounties.

[MrJane]

You're completely missing the point. It's about a PvP requirement being shoved into a PvE event. It's unnecessary and just pisses off PvE players.

[LoliNoxTan]

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

You're completely missing the point. It's about a PvP requirement being shoved into a PvE event. It's unnecessary and just pisses off PvE players.

You're the only person I'm seeing complaining about it. Do you REALLY need the twisted energy?

You need to do Gambit & PvP if you want all your Bright Dust for the week. Gonna complain about that next?

[MrJane]

Savathun's Simp/LoliNoxTan eredeti hozzászólása:

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

You're completely missing the point. It's about a PvP requirement being shoved into a PvE event. It's unnecessary and just pisses off PvE players.

You're the only person I'm seeing complaining about it. Do you REALLY need the twisted energy?

You need to do Gambit & PvP if you want all your Bright Dust for the week. Gonna complain about that next?

Nope, because bright dust isn't tied to a PvE event. You're not following the argument here very well.

[Mez Koo]

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

You're completely missing the point. It's about a PvP requirement being shoved into a PvE event. It's unnecessary and just pisses off PvE players.

And you're missing the point of "forced." Just because you want the twisted energy but don't want to do the specific bounty doesn't mean you're being forced to do it. Twisted energy has plenty of sources that you have plenty of options to get it without being forced to do the one you don't want to do. Either get it from other sources or just wait for next week.

[Shadow]

For now Twisted Energy have two sources, unless I missed a third - Weekly Bounties and Umbral Engrams.
More might come later, hopefully.

But like it or not, it is forced if you want to get it done, no way around that, saying you just don't have to do it to get more Twisted Energy is talking about something else and not the issue at hand.

This is nothing new sadly and I doubt it will ever go away though.
I do not care if its tied to Lore or not. Lorewise there are other ways to go about doing several of the steps for several Forced PVP Quests.
Be they simply a bounty or to get an exotic or some shaders.

No one is complaining about there being PVP, or there being some actual PVP things locked behind just the PVP.

The issue people has and continue to complain about, I having been among them. Is Bungie says 'We want you to do things your way' while forcing us to do it, their way.
Atop of that making, let us say, a quest for this weapon, be 95% PVE and then forcing in some dumb miniscule or very dumb and for some, hard specific PVP step.

And people are right to be upset. Especially now that they consistently add in 'Hey, you can do this in PVE and have it be slower. Or go into PVP and get it done quicker' bounties and quests.

[MrJane]

Mez Koo eredeti hozzászólása:

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

You're completely missing the point. It's about a PvP requirement being shoved into a PvE event. It's unnecessary and just pisses off PvE players.

And you're missing the point of "forced." Just because you want the twisted energy but don't want to do the specific bounty doesn't mean you're being forced to do it. Twisted energy has plenty of sources that you have plenty of options to get it without being forced to do the one you don't want to do. Either get it from other sources or just wait for next week.

No, you're not using "forced" in the same way that I am. My argument is:
"If I want to maximize my progress in a PvE event, I must do PvP."
Therefore, if I want to play the game in the way that I'd like to, I am "forced" to play PvP. I don't want to do that, so I'll be skipping the PvP and wait until next week, as you suggested. The fact that I'm going to, is what is tiresome, as mentioned in the original post.

[LoliNoxTan]

MrJane eredeti hozzászólása:

Mez Koo eredeti hozzászólása:

And you're missing the point of "forced." Just because you want the twisted energy but don't want to do the specific bounty doesn't mean you're being forced to do it. Twisted energy has plenty of sources that you have plenty of options to get it without being forced to do the one you don't want to do. Either get it from other sources or just wait for next week.

No, you're not using "forced" in the same way that I am. My argument is:
"If I want to maximize my progress in a PvE event, I must do PvP."
Therefore, if I want to play the game in the way that I'd like to, I am "forced" to play PvP. I don't want to do that, so I'll be skipping the PvP and wait until next week, as you suggested. The fact that I'm going to, is what is tiresome, as mentioned in the original post.

Dude. You have over 2 month left to upgrade your Recaster. No idea why you're still doing it since if you really cared to "Maximize" your progress you would've maxed the Recaster ages ago

Oh and Bright Dust is tied to Bad Juju's Catalyst