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Fokkas Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:09pm
Breaking Even mission is bugged
I've been locked at Breaking Even for 2 hours now. I've watched multiple videos and went through old forums for the mission and I've reoutfitted my squad and gave them better scopes and rifles (although the highest scope that is ever available is x4 - default for them is x2 scopes.

It doesn't matter how this is done, after the first shot at the beginning after we've awaited orders, the task is automatically failed. This happens with any squad person including me, regardless if we have suppressors. The first shot fails the objective. I've made it so I've had 1 squadie for each target (2 targets to squads with the highest level scopes) and it doesn't matter because after the very first shot from either of them suppressed or not - the objective fails and the CO says "told you to keep keep quiet".

I deem this mission bugged and I've reloaded several times, and even reverted back to scratch. Still fails on the very first shot.
Last edited by Fokkas; Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:12pm
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Cougarific Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:46pm 
Read the Mission Objective very carefully - taking out the guards is NOT your only objective there.

Spoiler:
You must remain unseen as well. Don't move your guys - they're already hidden - just hide yourself. You don't need to see or shoot the guards, your guys are going to shoot them by themselves. Do what a squad leader does - back off and let your grunts do their jobs. All you need to do is assign targets, back off until you're hidden, and tell them to Open Fire.
Last edited by Cougarific; Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:49pm
Fokkas Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by Cougarific:
Read the Mission Objective very carefully - taking out the guards is NOT your only objective there.

Spoiler:
You must remain unseen as well. Don't move your guys - they're already hidden - and hide yourself. You don't need to see the guards, your guys are going to shoot them by themselves. Do what a squad leader does - back off and let your grunts do their jobs.

I try that, I don't move anyone. The first few times I'd move up around 4 feet right next to the tree to your right then I'd crouch behind it or prone behind it but lately I've just been proning next to the bush when you start, and some how after anyone takes a shot, the task fails.. Sometimes the AI take out the target in a second, sometimes it takes around 5-6 shots. But how do you get larger scopes for the people so they can more easily take the sniper shots? I know a x4 isn't really good enough for the shots but it's the highest I had when outfitting them.
Cougarific Apr 10, 2015 @ 7:52pm 
Don't worry about your guys or their loadouts - just hide better before giving the order to Open Fire.
Fokkas Apr 10, 2015 @ 8:26pm 
I just skipped it, it was a lost cause, after over 30 reloads and the broken task, I just said eff it. It was impossible I wasn't going to care anymore, so I just continued without it. I already hate micromanaging 4-5 idiots as it is.
Cougarific Apr 10, 2015 @ 9:04pm 
In case you're interested I actually started to enjoy managing my idiots after I downloaded DWVAC Voice Activated Commands.

Watch Jester814 do the mission using VAC - it's pretty fun:
"Squad - formation Line!"
"Squad - get down!"
"Two - Three - Flank Right!"
"Squad - Open Fire!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvr4h3aARSc
Last edited by Cougarific; Apr 10, 2015 @ 9:07pm
Fokkas Apr 10, 2015 @ 9:25pm 
I was looking at something like that for VoiceAttack because I use that for Elite Dangerous.. But I didn't try it out yet, and I need to charge my headset.
Jatapa Sep 19, 2017 @ 9:04pm 
Necro
Baraz Sep 19, 2017 @ 9:12pm 
Jatapa2 : the campaign has not changed. I searched and the Steam discussion engine pointed this discussion as the first one. The PURPOSE is to help other players who may search "Breaking Even" in the Steam discussion.

As i just played that mission for the first time in my life in Sept. 2017 and searched for help on Steam, it is not necroed for me.

As the point is to have helpful information here, you can cry necro in vain.
Last edited by Baraz; Sep 19, 2017 @ 9:14pm
Ziggy Sep 20, 2017 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:
...As i just played that mission for the first time in my life in Sept. 2017 and searched for help on Steam, it is not necroed for me...

Same here, and the mission is bugged. There will still be players trying this for the first time and getting very confused, so it is certainly not necro.

At about the 7th attempt all squads got into the compound, all OPFOR down, and.... nada, the mission just stalls. No truck, no incomming mortar fire, no orders from anywhere to check and clear the base... If I stand still all AI just stop moving. I tried running around and checking containers and watch towers etc. I guess the scripting clearly thinks there is still live OPFOR. And no, I am not using *any* mods for this mission.

I followed *every* tip here, and watched vids, and followed other tips. It does *not* matter when I assign targets, if I move or stand still, use binos or not etc. etc. etc. as the OP says, after the initial shot the Task fails. I also tried modified loadouts, although the script clearly ignores the actual kit being used.
Cougarific Sep 20, 2017 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by jatapa2:
Necro
Welcome to the Steam Discussions

Searching is key! Before you post a question, use the forum search feature to determine whether your topic has already been covered.

There's a reason why ^this is the first sentence on the Welcome to the Steam Discussions! page.

Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:
I searched and the Steam discussion engine pointed this discussion as the first one.
Thank you for doing it right.
Baraz Sep 20, 2017 @ 7:23pm 
Breaking Even (The East Wind) important tips or walkthrough

https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/210659-breaking-even-the-east-wind-important-tips-walkthrough/

I deleted my comment above, to instead share a more complete guide (walkthrough and tips) for this mission.
Last edited by Baraz; Sep 20, 2017 @ 7:39pm
N Quarter Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:04am 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ettWKAato&feature=youtu.be

I'm having the same problem with the objective failing after I first give the order to fire.

I've tried the tips on the website, as well as the other Tip of keeping out of site, and still nothing. It's kind of irritating me, especially after I struggled completing the previous Mission "Supply Network"..

Maybe I'm missing something compeltely simple here?

Running no Mods, 100% Vanilla Content.
Baraz Oct 1, 2017 @ 12:44pm 
Have you read my tips (#11 just above).

a) The rebel leader will ask your squad to target the two guards... Select a part of your squad and target a first guard; select the rest and target the second guard. Do NOT fire yet. Voilà, the game will print a mission notice about succeeding that initial step.

b) The rebel leader will then ask you to wait for his command to open fire and eliminate both guards quickly (to start a surprise attack).

Once he gives his go-ahead, select your entire team and make them fire.
Both guards will suddenly drop (it is scripted).

Important : you (the player) must not fire until that first phase is done ! Only your squad mates are ordered to fire.

What you must know : this first step has nothing at all to do with gear, weapons, accuracy or anything combat related. They are simple tasks to do following the scripted dialogue.

TIP : do a save game immediately once that is done, to save you the hassle of doing it over and over again :P
Last edited by Baraz; Oct 1, 2017 @ 12:44pm
N Quarter Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:
Have you read my tips (#11 just above).

Originally posted by N Quarter:
I've tried the tips on the website, as well as the other Tip of keeping out of site, and still nothing.

I have indeed tried the Tips. The video I posted is me following your instructions, with the same result. Unless I'm doing something wrong, maybe the wrong timing on telling them to open fire, I have no idea.

I've watched many video's as well, and they seem to have no issues at all. So unless I'm doing something wrong, I think there is some kind of bug in play here.

EDIT:

Do you use any AI Mods or any Mods at all? Starting to think that maybe Mods might be why some people are passing this, but others not.

I'm not using any Mods at all, and I have tried countless methods, and they all come to the same conclusion, that I fail the Objective...
Last edited by N Quarter; Oct 1, 2017 @ 5:12pm
Baraz Oct 1, 2017 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by N Quarter:
I have indeed tried the Tips. The video I posted is me following your instructions, with the same result. Unless I'm doing something wrong, maybe the wrong timing on telling them to open fire, I have no idea.

I've watched many video's as well, and they seem to have no issues at all. So unless I'm doing something wrong, I think there is some kind of bug in play here.

EDIT:

Do you use any AI Mods or any Mods at all? Starting to think that maybe Mods might be why some people are passing this, but others not.

I'm not using any Mods at all, and I have tried countless methods, and they all come to the same conclusion, that I fail the Objective...
Ah, sorry, I didn't realize the video was your gameplay (I presumed it was some tips video).

We see that you successfully gave the targeting orders.

We then hear you give the Fire order at the right time and all.

Ideas :
a) try setting them to Stealth mode before shooting ;
b) instead of "Open Fire" aka Fire at will (option 1), try using the ordinary "Fire" command (option 3: which means fire only at given target).

Edited b above with proper command names used in-game.
Yes, I have some mods : "C2 - Command & Control", but I don't use C2 for that part. Also "CBA_A3".

AT WORST : it is bugged, but you do not fail the mission as such. The commander is just peaved that it was not the surprise attack he wanted (which is bull).
Last edited by Baraz; Oct 1, 2017 @ 6:12pm
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