is breaking even just ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[generic hooman moat.gg]

I correctly assess that since bohemia can't do ai that DON'T need a babysitter worth a ♥♥♥♥ I'd take the guards out myself, just zero to 300 and aim up on one down on the other and deliver 2 clean suppressed headshots, but noooooooo that's not undetected.

Reading the LOCKED(why, the mission is still ♥♥♥♥♥♥ since the day it came out there's no confusion to be had) discussion it would seem the mission start is up to its tits in script, so I assign my squad to take each guard, then I wait order to open fire, everyone fires a single shot at the exact same time, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing happens, then they just keep firing, the objective fails.


Maybe I wait for this magical other objective to make an appearance after the guards are targeted, so I wait, all of a sudden 'We HaVE mIsSeD oUr WiNdOw Of OpPoRtUnItY'

You mean to tell me all this ♥♥♥♥ was really last minute?

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to do besides continue on with a giant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fail hanging over my head

[Pending name...]

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

I correctly assess that since bohemia can't do ai that DON'T need a babysitter worth a ♥♥♥♥ I'd take the guards out myself, just zero to 300 and aim up on one down on the other and deliver 2 clean suppressed headshots, but noooooooo that's not undetected.

Reading the LOCKED(why, the mission is still ♥♥♥♥♥♥ since the day it came out there's no confusion to be had) discussion it would seem the mission start is up to its tits in script, so I assign my squad to take each guard, then I wait order to open fire, everyone fires a single shot at the exact same time, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing happens, then they just keep firing, the objective fails.


Maybe I wait for this magical other objective to make an appearance after the guards are targeted, so I wait, all of a sudden 'We HaVE mIsSeD oUr WiNdOw Of OpPoRtUnItY'

You mean to tell me all this ♥♥♥♥ was really last minute?

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to do besides continue on with a giant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fail hanging over my head

VCOM

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by Pending name...:

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

I correctly assess that since bohemia can't do ai that DON'T need a babysitter worth a ♥♥♥♥ I'd take the guards out myself, just zero to 300 and aim up on one down on the other and deliver 2 clean suppressed headshots, but noooooooo that's not undetected.

Reading the LOCKED(why, the mission is still ♥♥♥♥♥♥ since the day it came out there's no confusion to be had) discussion it would seem the mission start is up to its tits in script, so I assign my squad to take each guard, then I wait order to open fire, everyone fires a single shot at the exact same time, absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing happens, then they just keep firing, the objective fails.


Maybe I wait for this magical other objective to make an appearance after the guards are targeted, so I wait, all of a sudden 'We HaVE mIsSeD oUr WiNdOw Of OpPoRtUnItY'

You mean to tell me all this ♥♥♥♥ was really last minute?

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to do besides continue on with a giant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fail hanging over my head

VCOM

VCOM is incompatible with the SP campaign.

AI mods are not recommended at all for the SP campaign, unless it's something like the (to my knowledge) now defunct "C2" mod, which allows you to control your AI squadmates more easily.

[generic hooman moat.gg]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Originally posted by Pending name...:

VCOM

VCOM is incompatible with the SP campaign.

AI mods are not recommended at all for the SP campaign, unless it's something like the (to my knowledge) now defunct "C2" mod, which allows you to control your AI squadmates more easily.

thought as much

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

Originally posted by Aqueox:

VCOM is incompatible with the SP campaign.

AI mods are not recommended at all for the SP campaign, unless it's something like the (to my knowledge) now defunct "C2" mod, which allows you to control your AI squadmates more easily.

thought as much

Yup. Lots of scripting and triggers in the campaign that AI mods will mess with.

If you're having trouble, I recommend downloading "Simple Single Player Cheat Menu (SSPCM) from the Workshop. When I first played through A3's campaign back in '17 or whenever, it helped with the slogs. I play for the story, not so much the challenge. Not at first.

Having recently revisited the campaign, and soloing Apex all in one go, I will say that the mission you're stuck on is one of the tougher ones in the campaign because of its phases. The initial assault is all well and good, and you can die for sure, but you've gotta save enough AI and ammo to deal with phase two, killing the mortars, and phase 3 which is the panicked retreat/defense and then finally withdrawing.

My recommendation is to keep your AI squadmates back at the base you assault, station them in that tower. Also, use that tower to stop the enemy attack. After taking a few shots, switch floors and windows so the AI don't just blast you the second you re-peek. If you don't switch, yer gon' die.

Don't forget you can pick up AAF equipment, and tell AI to do so as well. I'm very much hinting at picking up launchers here.

Give it a few shots, take it easy, have fun.

[generic hooman moat.gg]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

thought as much

Yup. Lots of scripting and triggers in the campaign that AI mods will mess with.

If you're having trouble, I recommend downloading "Simple Single Player Cheat Menu (SSPCM) from the Workshop. When I first played through A3's campaign back in '17 or whenever, it helped with the slogs. I play for the story, not so much the challenge. Not at first.

Having recently revisited the campaign, and soloing Apex all in one go, I will say that the mission you're stuck on is one of the tougher ones in the campaign because of its phases. The initial assault is all well and good, and you can die for sure, but you've gotta save enough AI and ammo to deal with phase two, killing the mortars, and phase 3 which is the panicked retreat/defense and then finally withdrawing.

My recommendation is to keep your AI squadmates back at the base you assault, station them in that tower. Also, use that tower to stop the enemy attack. After taking a few shots, switch floors and windows so the AI don't just blast you the second you re-peek. If you don't switch, yer gon' die.

Don't forget you can pick up AAF equipment, and tell AI to do so as well. I'm very much hinting at picking up launchers here.

Give it a few shots, take it easy, have fun.

There anything I should look for once I download it or will I know what to use when I see it

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Yup. Lots of scripting and triggers in the campaign that AI mods will mess with.

If you're having trouble, I recommend downloading "Simple Single Player Cheat Menu (SSPCM) from the Workshop. When I first played through A3's campaign back in '17 or whenever, it helped with the slogs. I play for the story, not so much the challenge. Not at first.

Having recently revisited the campaign, and soloing Apex all in one go, I will say that the mission you're stuck on is one of the tougher ones in the campaign because of its phases. The initial assault is all well and good, and you can die for sure, but you've gotta save enough AI and ammo to deal with phase two, killing the mortars, and phase 3 which is the panicked retreat/defense and then finally withdrawing.

My recommendation is to keep your AI squadmates back at the base you assault, station them in that tower. Also, use that tower to stop the enemy attack. After taking a few shots, switch floors and windows so the AI don't just blast you the second you re-peek. If you don't switch, yer gon' die.

Don't forget you can pick up AAF equipment, and tell AI to do so as well. I'm very much hinting at picking up launchers here.

Give it a few shots, take it easy, have fun.

There anything I should look for once I download it or will I know what to use when I see it

SSPCM, make sure you enable it in the mod list, of course, and when you open your map there should be a little button near the top left that, if I remember, is a black bar with "SSPCM" or "Enable SSPCM". Click it. I believe there are also notes available telling you how to use it, in that same area where objectives, teammates, etc. are listed.

[generic hooman moat.gg]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

There anything I should look for once I download it or will I know what to use when I see it

SSPCM, make sure you enable it in the mod list, of course, and when you open your map there should be a little button near the top left that, if I remember, is a black bar with "SSPCM" or "Enable SSPCM". Click it. I believe there are also notes available telling you how to use it, in that same area where objectives, teammates, etc. are listed.

I asked if there's something I should be pointed in the direction of to make breaking even work

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

Originally posted by Aqueox:

SSPCM, make sure you enable it in the mod list, of course, and when you open your map there should be a little button near the top left that, if I remember, is a black bar with "SSPCM" or "Enable SSPCM". Click it. I believe there are also notes available telling you how to use it, in that same area where objectives, teammates, etc. are listed.

I asked if there's something I should be pointed in the direction of to make breaking even work

I literally gave you the answer hours ago. If you can't figure this out, it's best to uninstall the game and move on.

[generic hooman moat.gg]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Originally posted by generic hooman moat.gg:

I asked if there's something I should be pointed in the direction of to make breaking even work

I literally gave you the answer hours ago. If you can't figure this out, it's best to uninstall the game and move on.

for ♥♥♥♥ sake everything you said is front and centre on the workshop page for SSPCM

what I ASKED is is there anything I should look for in particular to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the start of breaking even

[generic hooman moat.gg]

still taking suggestions from anyone not whoever that was