New World was, and still is, a huge success story.

[Jerricky Jebates]

My evidence, start the video at timestamp 13:30.

https://youtu.be/SD-vls49kyA?t=812

#1 They actually received the LOTR IP MMO because of the success of new world. And the trust it gave their collaborators.
#2 New World is in the top 10 concurrent steam users of all time which is insane to think about
#3 They likely sold over 20 million copies and the game isn't even on consoles. This isn't even including the revenue from the cash shop
#4 even after two years hundreds of thousands of people still play everyday and sometimes 20K concurrently.
#5 50% of the people complaining left early because the travel was too tedious at early levels without a mount. Now they are finally introducing a mount.
#6 numbers seem to be growing now after hitting a plateau this year.

TLDR. For one of their first launched games and first mmo, this game has been a huge success, not a failure by any means.

[Jerricky Jebates]

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

I never said the game was great or in a great state, I said it was a success. That is factual, this rest is your assumptions.

Most mmo's lose 90% of the player base they had at launch, so that point has more going for me than it does you. I don't think any mmo ever has retained a majority of their overall playerbase, ever. The fact is the game is sustainable at the current player base and profitable enough for them to invest more resources into it, making it a success. Now that won't always be the case, but at this moment in time it has been a success.

Your arguments are irrelevant to the conversion and in no way suggest the game isn't profitable or successful. Even if public opinion is bad it still doesn't mean the game is a failure.

You're obviously still interested in the game or you wouldn't be wasting your time here. If you're not it seems like you can't move on or are just still coping the game is around alive, well, and you are wishing it would die.

Your statements are irrelevant to whether the game is a "success story" though. Outside of #2 and #4, you can't prove the other points.

I've stated factors that contributed to the declination of player interest of the game, which I would think is antithetical to a "success story".

#1, #2, #3, #4, #6 is all based on fact. You obviously didn't watch the video.

Player interest is on the rise so another one of your points debunked.

https://mmo-population.com/r/newworldgame

Cope harder daddy

[Dogtatokun]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

Your statements are irrelevant to whether the game is a "success story" though. Outside of #2 and #4, you can't prove the other points.

I've stated factors that contributed to the declination of player interest of the game, which I would think is antithetical to a "success story".

#1, #2, #3, #4, #6 is all based on fact. You obviously didn't watch the video.

Player interest is on the rise so another one of your points debunked.

https://mmo-population.com/r/newworldgame

Cope harder daddy

Please use a real source. Also, you've not addressed 1, 3, 5 or 6 with evidence. You've not used real evidence at all.

Let me quote your source:
Accuracy of data
Of course the data is not extremely accurate, or in many cases, accurate at all. There is no way of really getting MMO subscriber numbers today. If you need accurate numbers you will have to look for publicly released data, use steam users, or whatever method is available.

https://mmo-population.com/about#:~:text=Accuracy%20of%20data,or%20whatever%20method%20is%20available.

Please define success with evidence and statistics. Thanks.

[Alenfal]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

Your statements are irrelevant to whether the game is a "success story" though. Outside of #2 and #4, you can't prove the other points.

I've stated factors that contributed to the declination of player interest of the game, which I would think is antithetical to a "success story".

#1, #2, #3, #4, #6 is all based on fact. You obviously didn't watch the video.

Player interest is on the rise so another one of your points debunked.

https://mmo-population.com/r/newworldgame

Cope harder daddy

I guess this would constitute as fact then too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y65dbTKaOA

Edit: Going to assume you're just trolling, I don't believe anyone is THAT desperate for self-assurance.

[Jerricky Jebates]

*clickbait 420K subscribers on your guy, 991k subscribers on my guy. My guy statistically holds more merit than yours. (joke)

Also your video is over a year+ old. My argument wins hands down.

[Dogtatokun]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

*clickbait 420K subscribers on your guy, 991k subscribers on my guy. My guy statistically holds more merit than yours.

Also your video is over a year+ old. My argument wins hands down.

Bandwagon fallacy, quite a flawed argument.

The you edited to ad an appeal to novelty fallacy. Keep them going.

Use real evidence.

[Jerricky Jebates]

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

#1, #2, #3, #4, #6 is all based on fact. You obviously didn't watch the video.

Player interest is on the rise so another one of your points debunked.

https://mmo-population.com/r/newworldgame

Cope harder daddy

I guess this would constitute as fact then too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y65dbTKaOA

Edit: Going to assume you're just trolling, I don't believe anyone is THAT desperate for self-assurance.

use logic, that video is over 1+ year old, the game is still going and they are making expansions and new content. Your video literally proves my point. The game didn't die over a year+ later. That youtuber was obviously wrong. Your logic is flawed my man. All the current evidence supports my OP.

[Alenfal]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

*clickbait 420K subscribers on your guy, 991k subscribers on my guy. My guy statistically holds more merit than yours.

Also your video is over a year+ old. My argument wins hands down.

Sure buddy lol. Anything to address about the video itself?

I like how the guy in your video was just reading off a news article and stating that 20K CCU is a lot of people, despite most likely not knowing what AG's baseline for anything is.

[Jerricky Jebates]

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

*clickbait 420K subscribers on your guy, 991k subscribers on my guy. My guy statistically holds more merit than yours.

Also your video is over a year+ old. My argument wins hands down.

Sure buddy lol. Anything to address about the video itself?

I like how the guy in your video was just reading off a news article and stating that 20K CCU is a lot of people, despite most likely not knowing what AG's baseline for anything is.

*addressed it in the post above*

oh now we are all lying.. dude does his research man, he doesn't have 1 million subscribers for no reason. stop being silly, why should I trust your judgement over his? Seems like you can't handle being wrong. peace out

[Dogtatokun]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

Sure buddy lol. Anything to address about the video itself?

I like how the guy in your video was just reading off a news article and stating that 20K CCU is a lot of people, despite most likely not knowing what AG's baseline for anything is.

*addressed it in the post above*

oh now we are all lying.. dude does his research man, he doesn't have 1 million subscribers for no reason. stop being silly, why should I trust your judgement over his? Seems like you can't handle being wrong. peace out

Only one person in this thread has been wrong and it's not who you're thinking.

[Alenfal]

TrippyTaka님이 먼저 게시:

Alenfal님이 먼저 게시:

Sure buddy lol. Anything to address about the video itself?

I like how the guy in your video was just reading off a news article and stating that 20K CCU is a lot of people, despite most likely not knowing what AG's baseline for anything is.

oh now we are all lying.. dude does his research man, he doesn't have 1 million subscribers for no reason. stop being silly, why should I trust your judgement over his? Seems like you can't handle being wrong. peace out

Just like this game, bots.

Your comments were sheepily derived from an opinion video from an article that only references NW, lol. How about this, I'll allow you to keep feeling that the game's a "success story". Clearly there is no data officially proving it.

[Alenfal]

Rewatching the video, it comes off as pre-cope for the LOTR MMO with NW being the precedent lol.

He's using NW in a way that presents itself as a low barrier for the LOTR MMO to surpass.

[DIRTYBOMB]

Sever has 400 people on it "huge success" get lost marketing shill

[Caszama]

I don't know how you can call an mmo that loses 90% of the day 1 player base within 3 months a success... it's an mmo, not a single player game..I got to give it to Amazon though, their marketing team did a phenomenal job

[Warsmith Honsou]

I think it successfully gave people an mmo where you can do whatever you want and set your own goals but that will all change with the new expansion, gypsum gave everyone a way to get good gear doing what they wanted.

[Warsmith Honsou]

KillshotFlux님이 먼저 게시:

I don't know how you can call an mmo that loses 90% of the day 1 player base within 3 months a success... it's an mmo, not a single player game..I got to give it to Amazon though, their marketing team did a phenomenal job

different game since the last time you played