Faction game and no pvp, what?

[Vein]

What the point make the game with 3 different factions and you cant kill anybody? Its so stuped, i understand if you cant PK your own faction players, but this PVP mode on/off kills true potential of this game. I understand its 2021 and developers dont want make casuals cry, but this game must have PVP/PVE servers, like world of warcraft.

[Lagfactor]

3 factions for territory control which goes through pvp what is so hard to understand?
Also game was fullpvp during alpha. Will came as no suprise it became a gank feist high level camping low level outside the cities. While im all for full PvP lets be honest there is just not enough dedicated PvP players to sustain dedicated server in the long run.
Been proven by most of the game and even if you look at the succesful PvP games (Albion, Eve Online) they have low population among a genre, MMOs, which also has a lower player population than most other games.

From a business perspective makes no sense. The opt in PvP is a viable option and I have already seen PvPers trying to select specific servers to ensure a more active PvP setting

[Vein]

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

3 factions for territory control which goes through pvp what is so hard to understand?

what kind of pvp you talking? There is no pvp at all, only town sieges 50x50 and stuped boring faction quests.

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

Will came as no suprise it became a gank feist high level camping low level outside the cities.

Developers can make lvl restriction, so players cant kill those who lower 10 lvls, it would be enough to solve this problem.

[riten]

You simply dont understand what u wish for or ur troll. That would kill server population within month, cuz players who keep lose will move to pve. Also this pvp server will turn into big group controlled toxic pve server sooner or later.

[Falcon]

Come clean. You didn't actually play the beta, did you? Go back to Wow

[Zakayel]

I don't understand what the problem is, if you want to play with pvp players those pvp players are gonna flag themselves regardless. The people not flagging themselves don't want to pvp so you wouldn't see them in your pvp server regardless. If you don't see many people flagging then you wouldn't see many people in your pvp server. at least this way even those casuals can try testing pvp by trying faction pvp quests without getting ganked when they just feel like gathering undisturbed.

[Kief]

Publicado originalmente por Zakayel:

The people not flagging themselves don't want to pvp so you wouldn't see them in your pvp server regardless.

The don't want to PvP. (Player vs Player)

They want to grief. (Player vs Gatherer)

The rest of them just want to Gatekeep the game.

Very few of these people actually want to fight you in any form of competitive PvP

[Revan619]

"iF yOu AdD pVp H-h-HiGh LeVeLs WiLl GaNk LoW lEvElS"

Then add PvP zones in later areas of the game from 20+ where you can't unflag so people who are scared of PvP are safe in the low level zones. You let people choose to quest flagged or unflagged in the normal quest zones with the PvP zones having the elite farming areas and better resources. Caters to both markets

[Falcon]

Never once had trouble finding PvP action if we were looking for it on my server. All hours of the day, 24/7, if you were flagged you could find some action even in some really out of the way places in Aeternum

[Voronja]

Factions and PVP.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1tqTorVLU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T-uhxgqquYw&t=337s

[Peon]

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

3 factions for territory control which goes through pvp what is so hard to understand?
Also game was fullpvp during alpha. Will came as no suprise it became a gank feist high level camping low level outside the cities. While im all for full PvP lets be honest there is just not enough dedicated PvP players to sustain dedicated server in the long run.
Been proven by most of the game and even if you look at the succesful PvP games (Albion, Eve Online) they have low population among a genre, MMOs, which also has a lower player population than most other games.

From a business perspective makes no sense. The opt in PvP is a viable option and I have already seen PvPers trying to select specific servers to ensure a more active PvP setting

Cmon man, PvP in New World is not comparable to Albion a full loot, you go into zone and die, I think it's something that will be addressed over time, they will need a mechanic to keep players in place for a long time. The factions are a good start, but they have much work to do.

[Caduryn]

Publicado originalmente por Vein:

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

3 factions for territory control which goes through pvp what is so hard to understand?

what kind of pvp you talking? There is no pvp at all, only town sieges 50x50 and stuped boring faction quests.

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

Will came as no suprise it became a gank feist high level camping low level outside the cities.

Developers can make lvl restriction, so players cant kill those who lower 10 lvls, it would be enough to solve this problem.

There was PvP everywhere in the Beta, maybe you should have played the Game....?
And no it wont solve anything, Humans are Humans and lvl 60 would gank everyone out of the Game just like in Alpha.

[Kief]

Publicado originalmente por Lagfactor:

Albion

Most Albion players stay in the Yellow Zones which aren't full loot you just get knocked down and pay repairs like NW.

There is only a small subset of players that actually play the red/black zones

Albion would be a much more successful game if they changed it all to yellow but then they would probably do something like make it so you cant repair gear at all so it eventually breaks.

[Elitepatriot]

I played the alpha of this game but cannot remember anything happening pvp wise. So can i turn off pvp or opt out of it?

[Voronja]

Publicado originalmente por Elitepatriot:

I played the alpha of this game but cannot remember anything happening pvp wise. So can i turn off pvp or opt out of it?

Yeah. Totally. The U button is the PvP on and off switch. Can only be activated whilst in a settlement. No xp or gear loss. Quests will reset if you die before handing them back on mind you.

[Calous Caine]

Publicado originalmente por Vein:

What the point make the game with 3 different factions and you cant kill anybody? Its so stuped, i understand if you cant PK your own faction players, but this PVP mode on/off kills true potential of this game. I understand its 2021 and developers dont want make casuals cry, but this game must have PVP/PVE servers, like world of warcraft.

Oh gods my eyes are now bleeding trying to read that. Might I direct you to the naked monkeys beating one another with wooden sticks from alpha that led to the current pvp system? The devs obviously didn't want this game to become rust 2.0