Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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taiwoo. Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:01am
Any issues since new anti-cheat added?
Has anyone had any issues regarding the new anti-cheat sega implemented to NGS, or has it all been one big nothing burger. I've been tempted to come back but im still unsure if I should.
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Pkmnmastr Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by taiwoo:
Has anyone had any issues regarding the new anti-cheat sega implemented to NGS, or has it all been one big nothing burger. I've been tempted to come back but im still unsure if I should.
In my opinion the new anti-cheat was one big doompost. Almost all of the current players have NO issues with this new anti-cheat. Sure Welbia is sketchy, but is Gameguard much better? No, it's not. In fact, some people argue that Gameguard is actually WORSE on the PC while running than this new anti-cheat. (I've heard people saying they've gotten FPS improvements with the new one vs GG) I've been running it since they added it on Steam and have had ZERO issues thus far. The only time I've had issues with it is when I try to boot another program with admin permissions while the game, or I guess the anti-cheat, is loading, which causes a crash and an error. That's to be expected though. Launching programs once NGS has fully booted up causes no issues.

So in my opinion, you are perfectly fine coming back. Don't listen to the doomsayers, there are plenty of people still playing with no issues (with many of them still being on PC).

If all else fails, you can still run the game with Gameguard still if you modify the settings to run in Security Compatibility Mode (this solution isn't permanent, I'm sure).
Last edited by Pkmnmastr; Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:31am
taiwoo. Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:48am 
I see, I've heard the stories regarding this new anti cheat, game closing because of apps like razer synapse and logitech, so I took a break.
MekoNeet Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Pkmnmastr:
Originally posted by taiwoo:
Has anyone had any issues regarding the new anti-cheat sega implemented to NGS, or has it all been one big nothing burger. I've been tempted to come back but im still unsure if I should.
In my opinion the new anti-cheat was one big doompost. Almost all of the current players have NO issues with this new anti-cheat. Sure Welbia is sketchy, but is Gameguard much better? No, it's not. In fact, some people argue that Gameguard is actually WORSE on the PC while running than this new anti-cheat. (I've heard people saying they've gotten FPS improvements with the new one vs GG) I've been running it since they added it on Steam and have had ZERO issues thus far. The only time I've had issues with it is when I try to boot another program with admin permissions while the game, or I guess the anti-cheat, is loading, which causes a crash and an error. That's to be expected though. Launching programs once NGS has fully booted up causes no issues.

So in my opinion, you are perfectly fine coming back. Don't listen to the doomsayers, there are plenty of people still playing with no issues (with many of them still being on PC).

If all else fails, you can still run the game with Gameguard still if you modify the settings to run in Security Compatibility Mode (this solution isn't permanent, I'm sure).

The anticheat did get blown out of porpotion but was it a doompost? No but i do agree that people who didn't have any idea about anticheat should have stayed not knowing. But in the past it did give issues and people were concerned which is understandable. However i don't really get why the players of this game are obsessed with "doomers" And "doom posting" From an outside view it looks like you are trying to cope. :Ib_Ib:
Didaibr Dec 4, 2023 @ 3:53am 
It was not doompost :steamfacepalm: , Alot of people play the game with other softwares running in the background like vpns, music apps, browsers and so on, I have the razor app thing that clears memory, so yea people warning and dont wanting a new anti-cheat is complete normal when we know its not going to stop the cheater, It's always more damaging to us normal player than cheaters, because of how many false positive the anti-cheat can find and blast you with a ban and you cant get your AC back, same with random crashs and performance. I did not activate but I dont know if its complete off or not

Always listen to everyone and make your own opinion!
Rogue Dec 4, 2023 @ 4:23am 
Dumping error codes from their faq for troubleshooting is a "karen" move indeed. Oh the humanity. You'll be shocked with the list of whatever kernel or OS(Windows/Linux) error codes, shocked !!!!

Well, it doubled the bans for this week. Typically it's around 900, now it's 1800. lol. Of course if you are one of the banned or for whatever incentive reason you are rooting for cheaters or rmt sellers, you do you.
Last edited by Rogue; Dec 4, 2023 @ 4:30am
Gilver Redgrave Dec 4, 2023 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Rogue:
Well, it doubled the bans for this week. Typically it's around 900, now it's 1800. lol. Of course if you are one of the banned or for whatever incentive reason you are rooting against cheaters or rmt sellers, you do you.

Because its more invasive then GameGuard you genius.:steamfacepalm:

Oh the humanity. People wanna claim everything is fine and then disprove themself in the same comment. Pure Gold as always.


Originally posted by taiwoo:
Has anyone had any issues regarding the new anti-cheat sega implemented to NGS, or has it all been one big nothing burger. I've been tempted to come back but im still unsure if I should.

Dunno. Is there a way we can find out how many of those people got banned for an false alert of the anti cheat ?

As said before Xigncode is more invasive then GameGuard. The biggest difference is that GameGuard doesnt care about your IP while Xigncode keeps track of it. Good luck playing on the JP server in the future.

The problem most people will high likely be bothered by is this:
* 0xE0191002 error : This error code occurs when XIGNCODE cannot process simultaneously with another unknown program. Please check if program such as
nProtect’s GameGuard and AhnLab’s HackShield are operating and proceed to turn them off before game launch to solve this error.

Are you playing another game while afk chatting in NGS Or waiting for your mates to arrive? Pray to god Xigncode doesnt collide with another anti cheat.

The reason why we currently dont have that many issues with Xigncode is because its known by now how to prevent them. So saying it was just doomposting is being dishonest. Just because we know how to avoid issues doesnt mean there are none. I avoided Corona completely. So there is no Corona right ? Same logic.
57E Dec 4, 2023 @ 8:34am 
Game has crashed once, other than that I have noticed nothing.
VanillaLucia Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by taiwoo:
I see, I've heard the stories regarding this new anti cheat, game closing because of apps like razer synapse and logitech, so I took a break.

The twist was that what Sega was using isn't actually Wellbia Xigncode but rather Uncheat.

At least in my experience so far, GameGuard still hangs whenever I run in a populated exploration sector (such as South Aelio, Central Aelio, and even Leciel Exploration) where I end up in the very awkward position of being "solo-but-not-solo" and all of the interactables despawn, the enemies don't react, and the menus perpetually never work.

The new anti-cheat has actually resolved so much of this so for the first time since Stia's release, I have been able to "safely" play the game without being called a leecher because something happened on my end that kept me in a session but appearing as AFK on other screens (and that my only choice was to Alt+F4 which results in a system-wide crash that requires me restarting and potentially reinstalling the game anyways).
Raevenent Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by taiwoo:
I see, I've heard the stories regarding this new anti cheat, game closing because of apps like razer synapse and logitech, so I took a break.

It doesn't do that lol. Before we got wellbia on to the game, I was testing a lot of things people were saying would trip xigncode3, and it simply wouldn't trip.
Raevenent Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by taiwoo:
Has anyone had any issues regarding the new anti-cheat sega implemented to NGS, or has it all been one big nothing burger. I've been tempted to come back but im still unsure if I should.

None whatsoever. It was just one big ole' nothing burger. The only issues thus far that have happened from what I saw are with steamdeck, but those have rather been fixed very quickly afaik.

There were concerns no doubt, and there were warranted, but a lot of the stuff that was brought up was from 5-6+ years ago, so a lot could/can have easily changed since then.

Sure, there was Blue Protocol being brought up which also uses wellbia xigncode3, but if I'm gonna be real with you, since the anti-cheat is very customizable, I don't know what Bandai Namco did, but they certainly set it to kill mode.
Last edited by Raevenent; Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:22pm
Lapinoire Dec 5, 2023 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by Raevenent:
None whatsoever. It was just one big ole' nothing burger.
Basically this. A lot of people that post here just like to jump on the next potential thing that can be used to drive away potential(or even current)players for the game.
ShadowlessDawn Dec 5, 2023 @ 2:46am 
Funny thing is that all the other people that have complained about it being really invasive probably has some other really invasive anti cheat running from some other game
Prokaizer Dec 5, 2023 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by Lapinoire:
Originally posted by Raevenent:
None whatsoever. It was just one big ole' nothing burger.
Basically this. A lot of people that post here just like to jump on the next potential thing that can be used to drive away potential(or even current)players for the game.

To be fair the community deserve the hate.
If someone points out legit flaws about the game, for example leechers and battle power overhaul.
Some people will completely ignore the problem and pretend that everything is working as intented.
Some of them will even blame you for being "anti social" without even realising that you are a member of the biggest guild in the server (facepalm).
What's sad is that SEGA actually listen to these type of players and instead of fixing the game, they pretend that there is no problem in the first place.
Last edited by Prokaizer; Dec 5, 2023 @ 4:27am
Gilver Redgrave Dec 5, 2023 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by ShadowlessDawn:
Funny thing is that all the other people that have complained about it being really invasive probably has some other really invasive anti cheat running from some other game

Doesnt change the fact Sega switched from bad to really bad. A downgrade is a downgrade ya know. When someone has the flue and someone with Corona is coughing at him you wont be like :" Dont worry its the same just a little more invasive."
Lapinoire Dec 5, 2023 @ 5:59am 
Originally posted by Prokaizer:
To be fair the community deserve the hate.
If someone points out legit flaws about the game, for example leechers and battle power overhaul.
Some people will completely ignore the problem and pretend that everything is working as intented.
Some of them will even blame you for being "anti social" without even realising that you are a member of the biggest guild in the server (facepalm).
What's sad is that SEGA actually listen to these type of players and instead of fixing the game, they pretend that there is no problem in the first place.
These sound like hyper specific complaints.

Leechers being filtered out by Battle Power is 100% working as intended. There was a rampant problem with people going into emergency quests in base pso2 with 7* gear on Super Hard back in the day, at least with battle power requirements, the problem won't be as bad.

As for the other stuff.... I don't get the anti-social thing. I've never had anyone call me anti-social in game despite me never talking to anyone.

And it's true that sega doesn't need to fix battle power requirements, because it isn't a problem. Now if we're talking about other things, yeah, for sure.
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