Frilly Ballooned Bosom Pros and Cons

[Lapinoire]

To those whom regularly use Ballooned Bosom accessories, or any who care, there are severe limitations with the new Ballooned Bosom. There are a few good points, but more bad points than good.

Pros
• NGS type breast pad, meaning you can change the color of the fabric/material, as well as the skin color/
  
• Relatively shapely compared to base PSO2 breast pads-- Has a more "natural" shape/sag instead of just being mostly round.
  
• Does not have the extra material below the breasts like base PSO2 breast pads, meaning less clipping below.
  
• Max size is about 50~75% of the max size of base PSO2 breast pads, for folks that prefer incredibly large, but still somewhat believable size.

Cons
• Incredibly stiff. Almost no visible jiggle physics especially compared to Base PSO2 breast pads, only if you look close enough will you see it
  
• Does not work with any other attach points besides the default one. See next point.
  
• XYZ axis, specifically Y axis(forward/back) distance is reduced, meaning that most attach points will not have the breast pad sit properly on the chest, and will float in front of it(mid chest, right/left chest attach points),
  
• The shape/sag can create more clipping issues compared to base PSO2 breast pads. Clothing with ribbons or buttons will most likely clip through unless you sacrifice proper positioning to hide it.
  
• Due to the frilly design, only works with certain kinds of looks, rather than being generally universal.
  
• Max size is about 50~75% of the max size of base PSO2 breast pads, for folks that are into hyper size.
  
• Mid Chest, Right Chest, Left Chest attach points still work, but require the character to have default or smaller bust size. Switching between Frilly Bosom and any of the base PSO2 bosoms will result in terrible positioned accessories, and will require fixing.
  
• Attaching to Mid, Right, or Left Chest doesn't have the normal movement due to small chest, therefore default setting is the only "viable" option.
  
• The white on the frilly bosom is more of a very bright off-white, so it will not match outfits with pure white like Pure Maid.

So before you waste 5m+ to grab the new ballooned bosom, take these points into account. It's a fantastic accessory if you want to make (im)Pure Maid Dress have some appeal, and a few other clothes like Miness Lodia and Chocolat Felice, but other than that, it probably wouldn't see much use in most other outfits.

Edit 1: Updated details about attach points(mid/right/left chest)
Edit 2: Added color mismatch detail courtesy of post #12

[Aeden]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

So maybe the new Bosom has the same problem ? Its supposed to be white but depending on the light looks different ? I dont own it so i cant confirm.

It's the lighting, yes. It doesn't shade properly under certain lighting, so it tends to look brighter than other costumes.

You can change the color of the fabric to something else, but that doesn't really help when the lighting just says no.

So far it matches Arte Servine the best, not sure about Servante Lealu since I don't have it, but it doesn't match N-Pure Maid. Pure Maid appears to be a dimmer white with a slight blue tint and the bosom appears more eggshell and very bright.

Seems the color works best on NGS original outfits, and not so great on updated classic outfits.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008203

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008241

[Prokaizer]

Originally posted by Aeden:

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

It's the lighting, yes. It doesn't shade properly under certain lighting, so it tends to look brighter than other costumes.

You can change the color of the fabric to something else, but that doesn't really help when the lighting just says no.

So far it matches Arte Servine the best, not sure about Servante Lealu since I don't have it, but it doesn't match N-Pure Maid. Pure Maid appears to be a dimmer white with a slight blue tint and the bosom appears more eggshell and very bright.

Seems the color works best on NGS original outfits, and not so great on updated classic outfits.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008203

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008241

I challenge your character to do 10 push ups or 10 pull ups with these baloons.

[0000]

Originally posted by Prokaizer:

Originally posted by Aeden:

So far it matches Arte Servine the best, not sure about Servante Lealu since I don't have it, but it doesn't match N-Pure Maid. Pure Maid appears to be a dimmer white with a slight blue tint and the bosom appears more eggshell and very bright.

Seems the color works best on NGS original outfits, and not so great on updated classic outfits.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008203

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2825008241

I challenge your character to do 10 push ups or 10 pull ups with these baloons.

WDYM?
It is balloon filled with courage, love and hope.

It does not have any weight. Actually it's makes your powah stronger.

[Zytole]

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[Vic Viper]

Originally posted by Prokaizer:

No1 cares about 99,9 meters boobs.
I never liked them and i never will.
The normal slider let's you make huge boobs too, but people want to go even huger for some weird reason.
This community has more players playing lolis with barefeet or full mascular 100 meters boobs characters than normal looking girls.
Not that i care though, i am just sharing my experience from what i've seen in the lobbies.

I was gonna humour the thread and OP and go with the flow, but I gotta say: Honestly, this.

I can't front. Every time I enter a lobby and see female characters with racks that are more akin to a bad tumour, I'm grossed out or embarrased, rather than amused.

Guess it's a straight man thing (even gay men to an extent, and God, I still don't want to see the equivalent for bulges on that scale), cause I'm pretty sure women doing this would be in a pretty small minority. That's just not a woman mentality.

Heck, saying "it's a straight man thing" is doing a disservice to my straight friend who every time lets out an exasperated groan.

Am not gonna stop anyone to do this if it's their fun, but it's a case where I'll NEVER understand the appeal, even if you shove it down my throat.

[0000]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

Am not gonna stop anyone to do this if it's their fun, but it's a case where I'll NEVER understand the appeal, even if you shove it down my throat.

Same like I never understand why people like cutting board.

People has their own taste, some ppl like vanilla, some like green tea, some like chocholate.

Trying to understand people liking those stuff is same like understanding why people want to eat strawberry.

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

Guess it's a straight man thing (even gay men to an extent, and God, I still don't want to see the equivalent for bulges on that scale), cause I'm pretty sure women doing this would be in a pretty small minority. That's just not a woman mentality.

Heck, saying "it's a straight man thing" is doing a disservice to my straight friend who every time lets out an exasperated groan.

You sure about this?

H Doujins are largely dominated by female authors, many of which feature larger-than-head-sized breasts. In fact, they prefer it.

Preference has nothing to do with a person's sexuality, either.

If you don't like big breasts, cool. I don't like lolis, but I don't make it a point to bark across the river to lolicons about how much I don't like what they like, unless they start barking at me, first.

I will agree that too big is too big. I try to keep the size relatively proportioned to the rest of the body, rather than just going "HAHA SLIDER GO BRRRR" and maxing it out, like half the people that use the bosoms do.

The whole point of this is to potentially save people's meseta, because if there's anything people like to complain about besides lack of content, it's lack of meseta. The new Bosoms are pretty dang hard to work with, and are incredibly limited compared to the old ones. Then you and prokaizer come in here like "EW BIG BOOBS GROSS!!", yeah, and? We don't think lolis and average-sized characters are all that appealing, either.

[0000]

Also I want to adds some pointer, all men and woman born different.

Some like them bigs, some like dem smoll, some like buff dude, some like pretty dude, some like sumo-woman, some like cats.

That's how is it. It's freaking random.

The point is: don't judge people based on their preference, some people just born with weird preference. If you just born with bad preference, what are you gonna do?

Also another hint: there's time and place to do anything.

It's like going to cosplay con, and you got mad because bad cosplay.

[Vic Viper]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

Guess it's a straight man thing (even gay men to an extent, and God, I still don't want to see the equivalent for bulges on that scale), cause I'm pretty sure women doing this would be in a pretty small minority. That's just not a woman mentality.

Heck, saying "it's a straight man thing" is doing a disservice to my straight friend who every time lets out an exasperated groan.

You sure about this?

H Doujins are largely dominated by female authors, many of which feature larger-than-head-sized breasts. In fact, they prefer it.

Preference has nothing to do with a person's sexuality, either.

If you don't like big breasts, cool. I don't like lolis, but I don't make it a point to bark across the river to lolicons about how much I don't like what they like, unless they start barking at me, first.

I will agree that too big is too big. I try to keep the size relatively proportioned to the rest of the body, rather than just going "HAHA SLIDER GO BRRRR" and maxing it out, like half the people that use the bosoms do.

The whole point of this is to potentially save people's meseta, because if there's anything people like to complain about besides lack of content, it's lack of meseta. The new Bosoms are pretty dang hard to work with, and are incredibly limited compared to the old ones. Then you and prokaizer come in here like "EW BIG BOOBS GROSS!!", yeah, and? We don't think lolis and average-sized characters are all that appealing, either.

It's more the trauma of seeing hyper boobs everywhere that came back to me and kind of prompted me to be a contrarian in this thread. It's REALLY the case of hyper boobs that are 1 to 2 meters long I was focusing onto. I'm not a fan of regular sized bosom either, but at least it doesn't make me wanna stab my eyes, nor does it block my vision in lobbies or UQs.

I've already been in UQ lobbies with three characters with hyper sized boobs and at least one of them spamming cut-ins auto chats with sexual dialogue. Similarly, I've already been with a CAST that asked others to "polish his hyper sized rocket" for lack of a better term, though at least that one was a one-off case.

I guess I shouldn't be so against the accessory in the first place, but what people do with it, man...

[0000]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

It's more the trauma of seeing hyper boobs everywhere that came back to me and kind of prompted me to be a contrarian in this thread. It's REALLY the case of hyper boobs that are 1 to 2 meters long I was focusing onto.

Actually that's a common gendre. Not my cup of tea, but yeah they exists. So get used to it.

More like sumo-girl sub variant gendre.

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

It's more the trauma of seeing hyper boobs everywhere that came back to me and kind of prompted me to be a contrarian in this thread. It's REALLY the case of hyper boobs that are 1 to 2 meters long I was focusing onto. I'm not a fan of regular sized bosom either, but at least it doesn't make me wanna stab my eyes, nor does it block my vision in lobbies or UQs.

If you just started with that, it would've been more understanding. As stated in my own post, the problem lies in the ones that are maxed out, most of them don't even try to make it look good, they just slap it on 'cause it's their fetish.

But hey, people like what they like.

[Vic Viper]

Yeah, sorry bout that. I should've been more mindful.

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

Yeah, sorry bout that. I should've been more mindful.

It's no problem lol, sometimes we just gotta rant to someone, anyone, about something that bothers us, and if we had a particularly bad day or something.

[Luxaeterna]

this is the most cultured discussion I have read on this PSO2 forum

kudos to you

[Crystal Sharrd]

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

Originally posted by Prokaizer:

No1 cares about 99,9 meters boobs.
I never liked them and i never will.
The normal slider let's you make huge boobs too, but people want to go even huger for some weird reason.
This community has more players playing lolis with barefeet or full mascular 100 meters boobs characters than normal looking girls.
Not that i care though, i am just sharing my experience from what i've seen in the lobbies.

I was gonna humour the thread and OP and go with the flow, but I gotta say: Honestly, this.

I can't front. Every time I enter a lobby and see female characters with racks that are more akin to a bad tumour, I'm grossed out or embarrased, rather than amused.

Guess it's a straight man thing (even gay men to an extent, and God, I still don't want to see the equivalent for bulges on that scale), cause I'm pretty sure women doing this would be in a pretty small minority. That's just not a woman mentality.

Heck, saying "it's a straight man thing" is doing a disservice to my straight friend who every time lets out an exasperated groan.

Am not gonna stop anyone to do this if it's their fun, but it's a case where I'll NEVER understand the appeal, even if you shove it down my throat.

Personally, I'm glad I have small breasts, and my character shares my size. But for all those going overboard on the chest slider I hope for their sake ARKS covers chiropracty.