Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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Snork Feb 1, 2021 @ 12:53pm
NGS Insane specs
Hello everyone !

Anyone around worried about the specs for the NGS ? I know it is still on beta, but that's something really bad. I can't really see a niche game thriving with such hardware requirements. There is also the modern games problem, were you need to have the double of the specs to make sure you can run it, because things today are poorly made and devs don't really care about the hardware you have.
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Kossy Feb 1, 2021 @ 1:09pm 
The specs listed pre-beta are higher than necessary. The specs were changed once beta was announced so something lower than what the current specs are, truth be told.

As someone who was in the beta and played on more than one PC, I can tell you the high specs you're referring to were not necessary. At all.
VanillaLucia Feb 1, 2021 @ 1:35pm 
Keep it in mind that there was an asterisk and a footnote that mentioned that the final specs are subject to change. The point of the closed beta is to stress-test the game's servers (there were noticeable hitches I saw on everyone's videos that played the closed beta where for a period of time enemies would "freeze" and absolutely no damage was dealt until seconds later when everything synchronized) and updated.

New Genesis will have revised specs when the closed betas are over as the first one is over but there will be a second Closed Beta coming up soon for further testing. By the time these are done you can expect much more realistic requirements.

You can also look at the newly revised requirements for the base game at the new minimum settings at this link[pso2.jp]. I would hope New Genesis runs on this but you may need something higher than this for certain.
Kossy Feb 1, 2021 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by VanillaLucia:
Keep it in mind that there was an asterisk and a footnote that mentioned that the final specs are subject to change. The point of the closed beta is to stress-test the game's servers (there were noticeable hitches I saw on everyone's videos that played the closed beta where for a period of time enemies would "freeze" and absolutely no damage was dealt until seconds later when everything synchronized) and updated.
That might have been raw latency. The beta was Japanese IPs only, so anyone playing from outside Japan had to use a VPN/Proxy to get in and if they weren't using a dedicated service, well, combine that with the minor lag on the user end when streaming and occasional stutters like that are pretty par the course.

I could be completely wrong though since I've never needed a VPN to connect to PSO2JP. We'll see how the next beta period goes since that one's designed explicitly as a stress test for the servers while this one was to test general functions, AC/shop use, and item/character transfers.
A Old Man Feb 1, 2021 @ 3:38pm 
do keep in mind the game is 8 years old and needed a huge revamp, make sense the spec are significantly higher.
cuteasfck Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:12pm 
Minimum specs are a i3-4150 and a GT 410? 430? a 10 year old GPU? I don't think they are that high.
Xaton Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:16pm 
i just wish they would bring back the Beast race from portable series. or add in a non pretty race like dragons or somthing like the lizard kins from overlord type stuff XD
Kossy Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by Xaton:
i just wish they would bring back the Beast race from portable series. or add in a non pretty race like dragons or somthing like the lizard kins from overlord type stuff XD
JP has a beast face variant via an old scratch and New Genesis makes races pretty much nonfactor, so I doubt it's coming back any time soon as a racial thing.
Xaton Feb 1, 2021 @ 6:42pm 
well iknow dark blast is pretty close to the beasts jackle transform if they make it run on ground. but in reality the must have pretty races thing gets a little old on most mmos XD why like the guildwars 2 Charr lol
Originally posted by Xaton:
i just wish they would bring back the Beast race from portable series.
Beast face did show up on fresh finds for one day last november (PSU month)
MKPsyOps Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:04pm 
AVX is the problem for me, this seems like a very bad decision. My processor from 2017 does not support AVX. My computer is not a toaster Its very capable of running everything else and better than my old rig which would supported AVX before it caught fire.

I hope they change this or Im SOL. New Yakuza remaster also require AVX despite being 10 year old ports. ALOT of people are not going to be able to play because of this despite being plenty capable otherwise.

This really should be SSE like everything else. To do that w/ a f2p MMO is stupid af imao
Only a handful of games have ever required AVX mainly Horizon Zero Dawn which was patched later by the devs to make SSE and Death Stranding which was made on same engine. There no good reason for this I don't understand why.
Crescens Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:49pm 
What processor do you have that doesn't support AVX?
The original AVX instruction set was 2011 and Intel Sandy Bridge/AMD Jaguar processors have it. AVX2 is from 2013, so Intel Haswell/AMD Excavator processors support it.
It is only AVX-512 which isn't really available right now, because of problems, it is actually slower using this than AVX2.
While I have upgraded since then, my 2017 Zen based processor had AVX2 (and by extension AVX support).

If you really want to be sure, you can always use CPU-Z.

https://imgur.com/a/NmQaJoy

This will show the processor's capabilities, and as you can see, it shows AVX and AVX2 there.
Last edited by Crescens; Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:56pm
MKPsyOps Feb 1, 2021 @ 11:00pm 
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G4600 @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz

the thing about all processors have it since 2011 is not correct

my chip is from 2017 and there were processors still being made in 2019 w/o it.
Crescens Feb 1, 2021 @ 11:09pm 
Well, we'll see when the actual NGS specs come out, but it it was calling for an i5 minimum. This means that your processor is technically below the specs of the game.
This kind of thing happens when you are using a PC with lower specs.
MKPsyOps Feb 1, 2021 @ 11:24pm 
It is what it is but I play some very demanding games w/ np. NGS looks good for sure but its not blowing out other games Im playing atm w/ no probs and 1080 60 fps

Im sure NGS will be well optimized. PSO2 certainly was, but the AVX requirement seems unnecessary when you look at the history of the handful of other games ever released w/ it.

It's depressing me for sure and wrecking my plans. I cant afford a new rig atm for damn sure
And my only reason for living still was for NGS pretty much lol

I wont even be able to play pso2 anymore if they upgrade w/ this AVX support
Last edited by MKPsyOps; Feb 1, 2021 @ 11:29pm
Ezodagrom Feb 2, 2021 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by Kossy:
The specs listed pre-beta are higher than necessary. The specs were changed once beta was announced so something lower than what the current specs are, truth be told.

As someone who was in the beta and played on more than one PC, I can tell you the high specs you're referring to were not necessary. At all.
The NGS beta specs weren't changed, you're probably confusing with the base PSO2 graphics upgrade specs.
The NGS final specs will be different than the beta though, but we don't know how much different.

Originally posted by Blonde Girl With Twintails:
Minimum specs are a i3-4150 and a GT 410? 430? a 10 year old GPU? I don't think they are that high.
Those are not NGS requirements, those are for the base PSO2 graphics upgrade, nothing else.
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