This game needs Duo and solo back

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Its so frustrating if u play alone or with a friend to lose your games because the third player runs around alone even in endgame.

even following him is impossible because i cant upgrade stuff while following somone who runs around lost.

[AnderPRx]

+1 duo / solo plz!!

[MerlinCross]

Publicado originalmente por Nevia:

oh gas i was gonna download and try this but if i have to play in a team whats the point in a BR

Game also revives you up to a certain length of time. Should we get rid of that too cause I mean BRs with Revives? Kinda defeats the point don't it?

[Frostmire]

Publicado originalmente por Eternal Return is Chauvinist:

why these clowns keep spewing out bullship? solos and duos weren't impossible to balance. NN gave a full ass job at balancing the two meaning they didn't even try. There only goal during pre release was to put out new characters.

The only people responsible for balancing Solo weren't able to do so. Your argument only makes sense if a different company buy out NN and inject completely new developers to try and balance solo

[Frostmire]

Publicado originalmente por NeloDante:

Publicado originalmente por Eternal Return is Chauvinist:

why these clowns keep spewing out bullship? solos and duos weren't impossible to balance. NN gave a full ass job at balancing the two meaning they didn't even try. There only goal during pre release was to put out new characters.

So you never read any of the previous patch notes neither listened to any of their dev streams, got it.

bro that dude has been in every single patch note thread going full ape mode on how NN suck.

[Sm Izumi]

It's so fun to lose constantly because of random people in Squad.

- Either they're so bad they're probably weeb kids lost in this.
- Intentionally AFK cause why not ?
- DC too, only to come back at first level and attempt to fight a fully stuffed guy.
- Just bomb rushing alone 1v3 then complain in chat.
- Or just by having Bots, cause the game is so dead here i just chain matches with incomplete teams and the same players over and over again. Thus letting the good lucky ones to farm all bots being 10 more masteries than you do ending fights in complete rampages, one guy can roll over 3 people at the same time and one shot you, i've never seen such power spike creep in another game it's so bad.
- The item system is simplified, the amazon deliveries makes the game so easy to complete stuff, you never have to improvise which was the MAIN appeal of the game. It can be totally scrapped now. Why try to survive an island by crafting with spare ressources where everyones get a car !!
Now it's just league but confusing, janky and unbalanced, kind feels like a chinese knockoff.
- Removing solo mode made the game sink so low now, they can kill it when the whales stop playing.
- I don't even want to imagine the hellscape of rankeds seeing the matchmaking can't even pick up players by elo cause there's no one playing thus having higher elo VS new players sealing your game form the start.
- There's still bugs from the beta in menus, cursors, camera, pathfinding, mobs & on champions. But better remove game modes and release more characters.

Meanwhile instead of making the game fun with a good balanced solo mode, they would rather add more cash shop, more money grabs and add characters that further tip the balance scale to unplayable.

Imagine trying to sell, Skins, Sounds, Jpegs, Characters, Bundles, PASS, and lootbox in 2023 with "keys" for basicaly junk rewards based on luck while LOL offer this for free, you can open them for free, the content can be disassembled for a good amount and is also free but on ER you get almost nothing and you have to pay.

You better pay pay pay for everything, let alone the bundles are 3x more priced and they use the illegal practice of lying on the ""sale cutting price"" the product being already at this set price.

Imagine releasing other champions copy pasted on existing games in the genre while not balancing their mode.

It's only fair from the players who enjoy the experience alone with their own skill without having to clash with the toxic and noob players in their team which is the base of all the bad games to voice their anger.

The devs are terrible at their job and the only reason this game is completely smashed on the ground in term of coding and balancing is because they did put all their ressources in Casino shops and DESPERATELY attempted to be E-sport.

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Publicado originalmente por Sm Izumi:

It's so fun to lose constantly because of random people in Squad.

- Either they're so bad they're probably weeb kids lost in this.
- Intentionally AFK cause why not ?
- DC too, only to come back at first level and attempt to fight a fully stuffed guy.
- Just bomb rushing alone 1v3 then complain in chat.
- Or just by having Bots, cause the game is so dead here i just chain matches with incomplete teams and the same players over and over again. Thus letting the good lucky ones to farm all bots being 10 more masteries than you do ending fights in complete rampages, one guy can roll over 3 people at the same time and one shot you, i've never seen such power spike creep in another game it's so bad.
- The item system is simplified, the amazon deliveries makes the game so easy to complete stuff, you never have to improvise which was the MAIN appeal of the game. It can be totally scrapped now. Why try to survive an island by crafting with spare ressources where everyones get a car !!
Now it's just league but confusing, janky and unbalanced, kind feels like a chinese knockoff.
- Removing solo mode made the game sink so low now, they can kill it when the whales stop playing.
- I don't even want to imagine the hellscape of rankeds seeing the matchmaking can't even pick up players by elo cause there's no one playing thus having higher elo VS new players sealing your game form the start.
- There's still bugs from the beta in menus, cursors, camera, pathfinding, mobs & on champions. But better remove game modes and release more characters.

Meanwhile instead of making the game fun with a good balanced solo mode, they would rather add more cash shop, more money grabs and add characters that further tip the balance scale to unplayable.

Imagine trying to sell, Skins, Sounds, Jpegs, Characters, Bundles, PASS, and lootbox in 2023 with "keys" for basicaly junk rewards based on luck while LOL offer this for free, you can open them for free, the content can be disassembled for a good amount and is also free but on ER you get almost nothing and you have to pay.

You better pay pay pay for everything, let alone the bundles are 3x more priced and they use the illegal practice of lying on the ""sale cutting price"" the product being already at this set price.

Imagine releasing other champions copy pasted on existing games in the genre while not balancing their mode.

It's only fair from the players who enjoy the experience alone with their own skill without having to clash with the toxic and noob players in their team which is the base of all the bad games to voice their anger.

The devs are terrible at their job and the only reason this game is completely smashed on the ground in term of coding and balancing is because they did put all their ressources in Casino shops and DESPERATELY attempted to be E-sport.

Facts.

Deserved awards brother.

[YourFreeUseHairbrush]

Izumi out here doing gods work.

[MerlinCross]

Publicado originalmente por Sm Izumi:

It's so fun to lose constantly because of random people in Squad.

- Either they're so bad they're probably weeb kids lost in this.
- Intentionally AFK cause why not ?
- DC too, only to come back at first level and attempt to fight a fully stuffed guy.
- Just bomb rushing alone 1v3 then complain in chat.
- Or just by having Bots, cause the game is so dead here i just chain matches with incomplete teams and the same players over and over again. Thus letting the good lucky ones to farm all bots being 10 more masteries than you do ending fights in complete rampages, one guy can roll over 3 people at the same time and one shot you, i've never seen such power spike creep in another game it's so bad.
- The item system is simplified, the amazon deliveries makes the game so easy to complete stuff, you never have to improvise which was the MAIN appeal of the game. It can be totally scrapped now. Why try to survive an island by crafting with spare ressources where everyones get a car !!
Now it's just league but confusing, janky and unbalanced, kind feels like a chinese knockoff.
- Removing solo mode made the game sink so low now, they can kill it when the whales stop playing.
- I don't even want to imagine the hellscape of rankeds seeing the matchmaking can't even pick up players by elo cause there's no one playing thus having higher elo VS new players sealing your game form the start.
- There's still bugs from the beta in menus, cursors, camera, pathfinding, mobs & on champions. But better remove game modes and release more characters.

-As opposed to dying night 1 from a fast build.
-As opposed to loading in at night.
-As opposed to that one person rampaging through the entire lobby.
- Haven't bots ALWAYS been a thing or am I just remembering wrong. Also, Solos has the same problem of snowballing; it's why characters like Luke exist.
- I question how many people actually use the "Amazon deliveries" per match. It helps with some routing but if you're having to buy 3-4 items each game I think you're doing something wrong.
-Implying people won't whale in Solos either
- Surprise; match making has always sucked.
- Agreed and the single good point you've made.

Surprise, going back to solos isn't going to fix the problem it's just swapping it out with another different problem. A problem that people seem to have no problem defending, and have complained about it every time they make things 'easier'. Shall we also remove the amazon shop? How about the respawns, its a battle royal not Smash, who needs it? And escaping, who does that? Remove it.

The only reason I'm still playing is because of the changes don't feel as punishing to me as a 2 minute game time and a 10 minute wait time. That and the few friends I've made here but if we go back to the old ways i'm out.

Heck I might STILL be out because of all the bugs the game gives me. It takes way too much ram for something that's discount league graphics, the game 'crashes' with a black screen too many times, the load in has put me at NIGHT 2, and I can't even win an actual match as the game seems to have a fit when playing the win animation.

Shockingly; if they go back to solos I still don't think they'll fix these bugs. But hey, at least people can stomp blue gears to their hearts content and that's what the game is about right?

Game's moved on. And if you're still upset about it; how about you do to?

[YourFreeUseHairbrush]

Publicado originalmente por Master Sparkles:

They were struggling to balance multiple modes so i think it is more balanced now. And the worst point for sure is calling it a LOL ripoff.

It's not balanced. the *u** you smoking? dual range characters still stat check other honest characters. Low cd Damage immunity is still in the game on basic abilities. Ly anh is basically unkillable vs other melees (why did they give tryndamere ranged abilities plus an invul....plus she has old tryndameres problem of infinite sustain in melee range which riot balanced by having tryn commit to having a heal at the cost of damage but apparently nimble cant figure out insane lifesteal at melee range is toxic to play against?). Silvia is still basically uncatchable. glove/ar are still so *u***u** proof that you do not really need good movement just enough to get into range without getting one tapped. Haze still ships out damage for free while being as mobile as rozzi. Rozzi has 4 dashes and gets double crits for missing abilities. The list hasn't changed and you really trying to bring down the chosen one by spewing misinformation because he got some internet points.

And how the hail you going to say its not a league rip off. Nicky's ult and Vi's ult are literally carbon copies of each other. their charge punch q. literal copies of each other. Chiara's ult is *u***** swain ult + garen ult + katerina ult and you saying its more balanced. *u** outta here. foreal foreal plus escape angle plus double L cleaning.

[Crystalvine]

Publicado originalmente por Sm Izumi:

And the worst point for sure is calling it a LOL ripoff.

They have terrible balancing in all modes and it's not only a LoL ripoff
but it is also a Dota 2 or other MOBA rip off.

Abigail: A better Ruby (ML)
Adela: Kayle Ultimate skill but unique.
Adina: Wanna be Invoker or Aphelios as a mage character.
Adrianna: Just a better Rumble
Aiden: Akali but Unique
Alex: Better and Harder Jayce but unique.
Barbara: a Melee Heimerdinger
Bernice: Just Graves with Caitlyn skills.
Bianca: Wanna be Vladimir but worse with annoying and cringe English VA
Camilo: A playboy wanna be Yasuo.
Cathy: Camille, Bard, Yone but unique
Celine: Just a better Ziggs.
Chiara: if Swain and Morgana have a depressing daughter
Chloe: Nitro (Hon) or Syllabear but unique
Daniel: Gwen + Evelynn/Zed + Ekko + Kayn combined into one character
D&M: When Yone and Katarina are Siblings.
Echion: Yasuo Dash but Unique
Elena: A better RWBY Sejuani but unique
Eleven: Galio + Zac but as an Auto Attack or Tank Character.
Emma: Lulu and Zed with Pike Stun. (Most hated character for melee users)
Estelle: Braum but Unique
Eva: a Non-tentacle Waifu Velkoz with Dash
Felix: Not exactly as Riven and Unique
Fiora: The Old Fiora
Hart: Auto attack type Sona
Haze: A better Corki
Hyejin: Puck + Aurelion + Fiddlestick.
Hyunwoo: A better Poppy.
Irem: cute version of Nidalee
Isaac: Unique
Isol: Teemo without poison but more on dmg
Jackie: Warwick and Master yi but not similar.
Jan: Unique
Jenny: Unique
Johann: Anduin (HOTS)
Karla: Wanna be Xayah and Marci but worse
Laura: Unique
Lenox: Thresh + Darius with Bloodseeker ulti
Leon: a male melee Nami
Li Dailin: Female flat Gragas mixed chogath, warwick and riven
Luke: Lee Sin hitter that snipes
Ly Anh: Gnar but not similat. she's unique.
Magnus: Gangster Garen with bike but not similar.
Mai: Rakan and Anduin.
Markus: Aatrox but not similar
Martina: Most unique character I've seen.
Nadine: Vayne and Varus combined
Nathapon: Photographer Bard with Kunkka W
Nicky: Literally Vi with Fiora's W
Piolo: Unique
Priya: Unique with annoying humming
Rio: Ashe and Kindred with Jinx Q.
Rozzi: Better Lucian
Shoichi: A single target type Katarina
Silvia: Unique Trap Character
Sissela: Orianna with Karthus Ulti
Sua: Leblanc with unique skill
Tazia: Unique RWBY character
Theodore: Nerfed Senna
Tia: Better Twisted Fate
Vanya: Yuumi and Neeko
William: Unique
Xiukai: Unique
Yuki: Unique
Zahir: Veigar but Unique

Note: I have 3,000 hours of gameplay

[Frostmire]

Yes, ER characters are LOL's ripoff, which means it's unsuitable for Solo play unless the dev somehow innovate on top ( which they don't ) .

Solo BR as a concept ? Yeah I can support that. Solo BR in the context of ER ? Already failed.

If you want solo back and at the same time admit that NN was incapable of designing solo, you have to concede that it would only work if completely different designers replace the old ones and redesign the concept from scratch . There's no going back to Solo , there's only a different attempt at solo.

[Surflehrer Udo]

They should delete your post, this pinned message is so wrong.

[Surflehrer Udo]

@Eternal Return is Chauvinist this guy is the worst tbh, Players in Korea did prefer the squad mode over the solo mode, the DEVS did notice that, and to make the queue times longer and because the players did prefer the squad mode in korea, they made it the main mode. The DEVS are korean, ofc they gonna pay the most attention to the korean community.

[Surflehrer Udo]

queue times shorter*

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Publicado originalmente por Mr. Lean Flakes:

They should delete your post, this pinned message is so wrong.

"They should delete your post, this pinned message is so wrong." 🤓