Why is this game dying? (an honest discussion)

[Adûnâi]

Apparently, both Reddit and Discord are moderated to hell, so nobody dares to speak up about the state of the game. But according to SteamCharts, January 2022 has been the worst month for this game of all time.
https://steamcharts.com/app/1049590

What could be the reason for the people leaving the game? I have found three different reviews, but I'd like to hear more thoughts.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/subdog/recommended/1049590/
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kuroowns/recommended/1049590/
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198210884175/recommended/1049590/

[RougeBulbasaur]

Little to no advertisement and it is quiet difficult to do well

[Naosuko]

they should of advertise the game more in the beginning to retain a playerbase because they didn't the game is now filled with experienced players in normals and that shuns away new players immediately they prioritized in KR over NA/EU and this is what happens they just prioritized in a different audience

[Juez]

I discover this game today. I play the tutorial and the game like me. But when I try play a normal solo game and my waiting time is 6 minutes . To much time for wait and I dont have time for losing waiting.

sorry for my english.

[@PEPSIKrus.天照]

Yeah. and after release of the Cobalt Protocol, waiting time in low populated regions has increased even more, clap clap
Low playerbase? Let's split it even more.
I wish they made 1 vs 1 arena like in Dota 2 solo mid, instead of CP, make that you can pick any character and choose any item except for legendary ones.
Dunno how new players are supposed to understand anything in fights 4 vs 4, where it's a total chaos of skills.

[MerlinCross]

Ursprungligen skrivet av @PEPSIKrus.天照:

Yeah. and after release of the Cobalt Protocol, waiting time in low populated regions has increased even more, clap clap :cleanseal:
Low playerbase? Let's split it even more.
I wish they made 1 vs 1 arena like in Dota 2 solo mid, instead of CP, make that you can pick any character and choose any item except for legendary ones.
Dunno how new players are supposed to understand anything in fights 4 vs 4, where it's a total chaos of skills.

As I understand it, The mode is designed more for getting people into one of the better aspects of the game, combat.

The problem is though at least to me is that it amps what the base game does so a very fun and absurd degree. Faster games, faster fights, more blood pumping and way more chances to come back.

But you also have characters that can completely dominate the mode, items being possibly way more important here with RNG, and certain choices end up shooting yourself in the foot.

It's base game amped up to 12, well all the good parts highlighted but also the bad just as much. It's a fun fresh paint job but I'm not sure how long it'll help.

[The_YellowBacon]

i tried the game for a bit but it basically got to the point where when i found someone either i destroy them or they destroy me

[Jace]

It's dying because 60 IQ characters are the best characters in the game.

[MerlinCross]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jace:

It's dying because 60 IQ characters are the best characters in the game.

Kinda maybe?

[Adûnâi]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jace:

It's dying because 60 IQ characters are the best characters in the game.

Somewhat true, but it doesn't feel like it.

1. AR Aya? Is strong, but I don't usually see her.
2. Melees? Do seem comparatively braindead, but are quite diverse in what they do (like Leon has no mobility, Cathy needs to hit you with her shackleshot and telegraphed ult, Jackie may whiff her chainsaw, Luke needs to hit the bucket, etc.).
3. Chloe? She seemed utterly disgusting whenever I played her, but that's because most of the people I encountered brainlessly engaged me instead of poking and killing the doll.
4. Nadine? Can one-shot you with her one skill, can three-tap you with attacks, but is paper.

All in all, there is plenty of diversity when you add it up. I for one have gone to play crit Hyejin which does require less IQ than spell Hyejin, but it's fun in its own way.

[Necktron]

I got hooked on the game because it was made in Korea and wanted to try it out. Kinda fun and a bit of a odd but satisfying concept with a MOBA / Survival / Battle Royale. But what the actual f**k is the balance in this game??? Sometimes I can stomp by doing nothing at all, sometimes I get annihilated lvl 1 because of bad luck and encounter with hostile players. But one thing I can't grasp at all or needs to be fixed before this game caughts fire and burns to the ground is "How does the actual balance work in this game????".

My #1 fury moment of this game:

* I played Jenny and got a really nice game, 9 kills, top of the scoreboard and all. Basically unchallanged, nobody could kill me

* 2 survivors left, me as Jenny and some guy playing Hyunwoo. NOTE; I had lvl 8 HP, lvl 13 defence, lvl 15 Weapon Mastery, legendary gun with great damage and attack speed aswell as legendary crown for HP bonus

* The last zone arrives and I hold the terminal, Hyunwoon tries to advance but seemes scared because he is lvl 8 HP, lvl 10 in defence, lvl 10 Weapon Mastery and only got 1 kill during the game.

* I poke him a little and he is almost 3 shot to death, but then it happens... He swoops out from a bush, stuns me and kills me within a second. WHAT!? He is supposed to be WAY LESS powerful than me, both stats and level, but somehow he gets me because I'm stunned for all eternity.

* HOW CAN I LOSE THE GAME!?!?! When it goes so well both gameplay and stats, then this roamer with basically nothing kills me because he smacked boars and chickens all game????

As I said before, I like the concept of the game and it's character designs, but for the love of God... HOW can these things happen? If I ever been even a single Weapon Mastery lower than others in the end game I get terminated in 1 or 2 shots, I could never dream of beating a lvl 15 as a lvl 10, but somehow it always works in the opposite situations. I know this might have been an extremley bad luck timing with match up of characters and stats of abilities or gear, but it just seems like a too perfect game to end like this... Please enlighten me or fix the balance of this game, cause this is too broken to even consider playing again otherwise

[Hez]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Necktron:

I got hooked on the game because it was made in Korea and wanted to try it out. Kinda fun and a bit of a odd but satisfying concept with a MOBA / Survival / Battle Royale. But what the actual f**k is the balance in this game??? Sometimes I can stomp by doing nothing at all, sometimes I get annihilated lvl 1 because of bad luck and encounter with hostile players. But one thing I can't grasp at all or needs to be fixed before this game caughts fire and burns to the ground is "How does the actual balance work in this game????".

My #1 fury moment of this game:

* I played Jenny and got a really nice game, 9 kills, top of the scoreboard and all. Basically unchallanged, nobody could kill me

* 2 survivors left, me as Jenny and some guy playing Hyunwoo. NOTE; I had lvl 8 HP, lvl 13 defence, lvl 15 Weapon Mastery, legendary gun with great damage and attack speed aswell as legendary crown for HP bonus

* The last zone arrives and I hold the terminal, Hyunwoon tries to advance but seemes scared because he is lvl 8 HP, lvl 10 in defence, lvl 10 Weapon Mastery and only got 1 kill during the game.

* I poke him a little and he is almost 3 shot to death, but then it happens... He swoops out from a bush, stuns me and kills me within a second. WHAT!? He is supposed to be WAY LESS powerful than me, both stats and level, but somehow he gets me because I'm stunned for all eternity.

* HOW CAN I LOSE THE GAME!?!?! When it goes so well both gameplay and stats, then this roamer with basically nothing kills me because he smacked boars and chickens all game????

As I said before, I like the concept of the game and it's character designs, but for the love of God... HOW can these things happen? If I ever been even a single Weapon Mastery lower than others in the end game I get terminated in 1 or 2 shots, I could never dream of beating a lvl 15 as a lvl 10, but somehow it always works in the opposite situations. I know this might have been an extremley bad luck timing with match up of characters and stats of abilities or gear, but it just seems like a too perfect game to end like this... Please enlighten me or fix the balance of this game, cause this is too broken to even consider playing again otherwise :ER_Bear: :sacrificed:

if you was stunned by him, then u deserve to lose...

[Joynerd]

Find no one on build path, scale and win easily.
Get interrupted by 2 people on the same area, get killed and miss xp and lose.
It's that simple. The average person isn't going to tolerate this kind of unsatisfying gameplay in the hopes of getting those games where you scale and win.

[Adûnâi]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Joynerd:

Find no one on build path, scale and win easily.
Get interrupted by 2 people on the same area, get killed and miss xp and lose.
It's that simple. The average person isn't going to tolerate this kind of unsatisfying gameplay in the hopes of getting those games where you scale and win.

Quite wrong. People in your path are usually crafting just as you are. The only threat they pose is by stealing your materials.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Necktron:

* HOW CAN I LOSE THE GAME!?!?! When it goes so well both gameplay and stats, then this roamer with basically nothing kills me because he smacked boars and chickens all game????

Isn't this actually good? Isn't snowballing bad? Honestly, Hyunwoo is such a free kill, just don't let him wall-stun you, and you can auto-attack him to death.

By the way, regarding the topic, the game as improved by a lot in this regard - both by having increased the item drops per cluster/zone, and by introducing the drones. Now you can buy an item whenever you miss it for whatever reason, really life-affirming.

[AgustinAbadi]

its a really hard game for noobs. like really hard. So every player that is lost is not recuperated fast enough. you can't invite anyone to play and expect them to have fun.
so... its so complex for it's own misery, that it will have ( if its lucky and they want to play all at the same time), the same thousand people that for some reason still think that if a player is a noob it's should never have any fun playing this game.

[SirNikolai]

Hey all young adults Lv25+ ER here.
I Can safety said that the kids around 21 are the ones saying "get good". Ever since fortnite came out it's been like this in BR's.
I even played Blackout try to 20mins of it garbages; no fair play at all. @ least in fortnite you have a chance, unless you kill yourself by a shockwave

Right Now i don't know where this game stands, but i do know that League of Legends is more of a waste of time for any new players. Dota 2 is more complex, but the paywall for organizing roles etc is a cheap trick for new players.

Dota 2, Fortnite/ Apex Legends/ Smite/ Rogue One/ERBS from complex to playbase.
Games to Avoid if you value your mental health.
Leagueof Legends/ WarZone/ PUBG/.

I'm an older player so consistency is my problem in even getting better. I work a lot and have a huge backlog of games to complete off steam as well. Some of them I'm willing to stream, rest and repeat work is what halts any of it.
The Streamers that do stream this need to be understanding to the viewers that don't play all day like the streamer streaming her sleep cycle to make ends meat. That's not the healthy way to good. That's the younger generation for y'all

Ever on PS4 you know where to find me or & i'm in ERBS Discord as well