Eternal Return

Eternal Return

Arceal Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:08am
Has this game ever released a balanced champion?
Every single character that this game has ever released has been insane. Every single character they release gets hit heavy with the nerf hammer the next patch. What I am saying is Bernice is aids until next patch.
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Waryth Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Arceal:
Every single character that this game has ever released has been insane
You have no idea how a lot of people complained about Adriana being terrible after her release being the most weakest character in the game.
Likar Mar 21, 2021 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Waryth:
Originally posted by Arceal:
Every single character that this game has ever released has been insane
You have no idea how a lot of people complained about Adriana being terrible after her release being the most weakest character in the game.

Adriana is still garbage btw(My fav char in original black survival). This game was made only for Luke fans. He is still broken as fk.
Netrazin Mar 21, 2021 @ 7:42am 
That's why the game lost 2000 players after the release of Adela. Normal game is always broken recently, and they do never hot fixes.
Originally posted by Netrazin:
That's why the game lost 2000 players after the release of Adela. Normal game is always broken recently, and they do never hot fixes.
so true, and Eu servers trash btw
Chakabaka Mar 21, 2021 @ 2:40pm 
will they be doing balance updates in the future? im new an i want to look forward for this game
Kizzen Mar 21, 2021 @ 3:18pm 
i think they will not balance thing, because our dev dont look the stat but look the suggestion from community, that why u just enjoy the game. i dont care about mmr, this game is not balance but fun. the thing is that many char easly run away from fighting and the other not. and loving ratting is more rewarding in this game. u can see last solo turnamen, top 5 mostly the character who has good mechanic escape.
i just want delete the escape mechanic thu wall or river or something , the other escape is fine.
korean dev always like this, like black desert online, some character just brainless and rewarded as ♥♥♥♥. i hope the dev will understant why they keep losing their player
Last edited by Kizzen; Mar 21, 2021 @ 3:23pm
76561199009527056 Mar 21, 2021 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Itou Shinji:
will they be doing balance updates in the future? im new an i want to look forward for this game

We do a balance update every week!



Originally posted by Kizzen!:
i think they will not balance thing, because our dev dont look the stat but look the suggestion from community, that why u just enjoy the game. i dont care about mmr, this game is not balance but fun. the thing is that many char easly run away from fighting and the other not. and loving ratting is more rewarding in this game. u can see last solo turnamen, top 5 mostly the character who has good mechanic escape.
i just want delete the escape mechanic thu wall or river or something , the other escape is fine.
korean dev always like this, like black desert online, some character just brainless and rewarded as ♥♥♥♥. i hope the dev will understant why they keep losing their player


This is.. false. We base the bulk of the balance based on data. We have a variety of data points that help us balance - ranging from damage done to MMR efficiency.
Freedead Mar 21, 2021 @ 8:04pm 
Searching for a game takes longer than the game itself. Game dying.
Arceal Mar 21, 2021 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Freedead:
Searching for a game takes longer than the game itself. Game dying.
I've been playing on the Korean servers almost exclusively. The matches are fast and Koreans are way less likely to not accept a match when the queue pops. The ping difference doesn't seem to be that bad because I seem to be playing pretty well.

(Edit: Grammar corrections.)
Last edited by Arceal; Mar 22, 2021 @ 1:30am
76561199009527056 Mar 22, 2021 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Freedead:
Searching for a game takes longer than the game itself. Game dying.

Hmmm. The Ohio server hits a new record high of concurrent players each day so I think this is false too!
Arceal Mar 22, 2021 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by GM Aesop:
Originally posted by Freedead:
Searching for a game takes longer than the game itself. Game dying.

Hmmm. The Ohio server hits a new record high of concurrent players each day so I think this is false too!
https://steamcharts.com/app/1049590

Then which server caused the game to lose 11% of it's player base in the last 30 days?

It also looks like it lost 29% of it's concurrent players in February.
It also lost 18% of it's overall playerbase in January.

I would really like you to post the statistics you're looking at instead of just dropping a "no you're wrong."
Kizzen Mar 22, 2021 @ 5:35am 
i know dev trying to balance thing but please make it better not make it worst, if u said to data, then give me reason why there is character has win rate in solo and top 3/5 percentage with 10% different margin comparing other character, that was so huge. Shoichi, lenox and Rozzi in top 3 and win rate % for 1000 gameplay is very low rate than other char according https://dak.gg/bser/statistics/most?type=recent&teamMode=SOLO, according to last turnament https://www.twitch.tv/videos/957129434, top 5 always fill with character who has good escape mechanic. where is top 100 immortal for rozzi in any server ? i really love this game, i try inviting many friend to play, but they quit easly :(
Potato Mar 22, 2021 @ 12:11pm 
At this point, i'm just willing to accept that multiplayer games will release OP/UP character every so often. It isn't just restricted to ERBS; it's practically everywhere. The biggest sin that these multiplayer games that do the above is leaving the new mis-balanced character as it, regardless of many weeks of criticism. ERBS have been doing a very fine job, and honestly swift job (in my opinion) on balancing things, and I'm sure the same will happen to exceptional oddities later in the future.

This is one of the few games where I can actually see every character have an impact and winning chance. Some excel at specific modes than others, but generally everyone has a chance to fight and win. And defeat Luke, the biggest topic i've currently seen. Adela and Cathy were both arguably overpowered upon release, and both got swiftly nerfed or rebalanced. Luke will get his alterations too if he's very infamous, but i've barely had trouble with him in late-game or even mid.
Again, balance will come; this is still a game in Early Access, so balance and sweeping changes are still in the works (we JUST had a change to Meteorite spawning, for example). As long as the core of ERBS remain entertaining and addicting, I'm here to stay in the long-haul. OP/UP characters will come, and they will be balanced back into normalcy, like the rest.

About the topic at hand, I'm actually going to lean into Bernice being just decent, not overly busted. The biggest benefactor of his kit is constant rooting and damage. But it comes at the cost of no mobility. If you are a very mobile character, he's as good as dead. If you can dance about his skills, he'll have no way to dodge your skills, cause he literally has no means to. Bernice' lack of mobility is going to make him just less well-kitted than most other characters than can. So him being OP? I severely doubt it.
76561199009527056 Mar 22, 2021 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by Arceal:
Originally posted by GM Aesop:

Hmmm. The Ohio server hits a new record high of concurrent players each day so I think this is false too!
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Then which server caused the game to lose 11% of it's player base in the last 30 days?

It also looks like it lost 29% of it's concurrent players in February.
It also lost 18% of it's overall playerbase in January.

I would really like you to post the statistics you're looking at instead of just dropping a "no you're wrong."

Okey doke, I can post some.

Here's a chart of daily concurrent users on the NA server for the month:

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As you can clearly see, the Ohio server is growing day over day. (The falls are sleep hours or server maintenance)

The drop we're seeing is because we had a HUGE explosion on release into Early Access in Korea which was, frankly, unsustainable with the state of the game. It was way *way* more than expected.


Oh, also unique views on reddit per day:

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and twitter interactions for the last month:

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So ya, looks like growth to me! :D
Last edited by Aesop; Mar 22, 2021 @ 9:47pm
BladeSaint Mar 23, 2021 @ 12:28pm 
I'm a rozzi main and I see no problems with her. Just bad people giving her a bad name. Also the glitch where I cant dash if I buffer a movement button but they claimed they fixed it in the upcoming patch tonight so I really have nothing to complain about
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Date Posted: Mar 21, 2021 @ 4:08am
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