No English dub!!

[Monterossa]

I support Koei Tecmo's decision to stop dubbing this franchise.

I'm buying this game day one.

Reasons why I don't like English dub, even as an option:

1. Because English dub always come with bad, inaccurate translations.

When a game (or movie, drama, anime) gets dubbed in English, most of the time the scripts will be altered to match the dub script, and most translators will use the dub script as subtitles (also known as "dubtitles"). So even if you choose to use the original Japanese audio, you'll get bad subtitles that don't match what the characters say.

2. Because English dub comes with heavy localization.

Japanese honorifics, unique nouns, and basic Japanese words (IE: sakura = cherry blossom, katana = sword, ramen = noodle) will be localized, because it'd be weird to have English voice actors say these words (with terrible pronunciation).

There you have it, the reasons why many people hate English dubs, even as an option.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Glitter Peace:

Like is said it doesn't matter the difference, It's not relevant to the point I made.

Do you think AAA publishers put these additional languages in their games for a laugh?

They know they will actually receive more sales as a result and increase profits.

The only difference between Niche and AAA is total number of languages they support.

Like I said in my last comment, which I can see you still haven’t read, is that if they support English along with the Japanese audio they reach more people, gain more sales, the same way AAA companies do.

It's not the same for every product.

Most niche Japanese games have different fanbase from mainstream games. Fans who enjoy playing Atelier are mostly people who prefer Japanese voices, or prefer either Japanese or English (they might use English if possible, but if not, they can live with it and play the game in Japanese).

They probably think that producing English dub might not gain that much more customers, and it costs them too much to make it worth the little extra customers anyway.

Don't forget that KT have the data on their hands, and with Lydie's statistics, they know which direction to take.

https://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/24/atelier-escha-logy-will-have-dual-audio-voice-tracks-in-the-west/ Do you at all know that KT said in 2013 October that All Future Atelier Games Will Include Dual Audio In The West and they said that We want to say sorry for the incidents of Atelier Ayesha; also a big thank you for letting us know your feeling regarding the voicing issue. We have told and pushed the Gust development team. We’ll keep making sure all their games to include dual audio options from now on. Thanks, If they had said "Japanese voices" this would not be an issue, but they said dual audio. They've gone back on that, Lydie, Nelke and Lulua should have them but they dont and they dont even say sorry to that

[Monterossa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

It's not the same for every product.

Most niche Japanese games have different fanbase from mainstream games. Fans who enjoy playing Atelier are mostly people who prefer Japanese voices, or prefer either Japanese or English (they might use English if possible, but if not, they can live with it and play the game in Japanese).

They probably think that producing English dub might not gain that much more customers, and it costs them too much to make it worth the little extra customers anyway.

Don't forget that KT have the data on their hands, and with Lydie's statistics, they know which direction to take.

https://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/24/atelier-escha-logy-will-have-dual-audio-voice-tracks-in-the-west/ Do you at all know that KT said in 2013 October that All Future Atelier Games Will Include Dual Audio In The West and they said that We want to say sorry for the incidents of Atelier Ayesha; also a big thank you for letting us know your feeling regarding the voicing issue. We have told and pushed the Gust development team. We’ll keep making sure all their games to include dual audio options from now on. Thanks, If they had said "Japanese voices" this would not be an issue, but they said dual audio. They've gone back on that, Lydie, Nelke and Lulua should have them but they dont and they dont even say sorry to that

They apologized and fulfilled our demands because they know how important the fans like me are.

For people like you though....

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "Okay, see ya."

- 3 years later, when a new game is coming out -

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "I thought you guys left?"

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

https://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/24/atelier-escha-logy-will-have-dual-audio-voice-tracks-in-the-west/ Do you at all know that KT said in 2013 October that All Future Atelier Games Will Include Dual Audio In The West and they said that We want to say sorry for the incidents of Atelier Ayesha; also a big thank you for letting us know your feeling regarding the voicing issue. We have told and pushed the Gust development team. We’ll keep making sure all their games to include dual audio options from now on. Thanks, If they had said "Japanese voices" this would not be an issue, but they said dual audio. They've gone back on that, Lydie, Nelke and Lulua should have them but they dont and they dont even say sorry to that

They apologized and fulfilled our demands because they know how important the fans like me are.

For people like you though....

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "Okay, see ya."

- 3 years later, when a new game is coming out -

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "I thought you guys left?"

Well KT shouldnt favor you and Sub group over the other

[Monterossa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

They apologized and fulfilled our demands because they know how important the fans like me are.

For people like you though....

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "Okay, see ya."

- 3 years later, when a new game is coming out -

Dub fans: "No dub, no buy!!"

KT: "I thought you guys left?"

Well KT shouldnt favor you and Sub group over the other

Well we buy their games, unlike the dub lovers.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Well KT shouldnt favor you and Sub group over the other

Well we buy their games, unlike the dub lovers.

Monterossa if you have a huge ego over us refused to purchase them, then why you refused to purchase Dragon quest 11, you might be a no japanese dub, no buy kind of guy

[Monterossa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Monterossa if you have a huge ego over us refused to purchase them, then why you refused to purchase Dragon quest 11, you might be a no japanese dub, no buy kind of guy

Yes, I am.

But the difference is they will listen to people like me, because we're important.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Monterossa if you have a huge ego over us refused to purchase them, then why you refused to purchase Dragon quest 11, you might be a no japanese dub, no buy kind of guy

Yes, I am.

But the difference is they will listen to people like me, because we're important.

well you supporting Koei Tecmo's decision to stop dubbing this franchise only proves my point, you and sub community are not helping a atelier series grow not by buying them, but by pushing other people away, english dub fans and other people

[Monterossa]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Yes, I am.

But the difference is they will listen to people like me, because we're important.

well you supporting Koei Tecmo's decision to stop dubbing this franchise only proves my point, you and sub community are not helping a atelier series grow not by buying them, but by pushing other people away, english dub fans and other people

The exclusion of those people didn't effect the sales of Lydie. So they don't matter to the series's growth.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

well you supporting Koei Tecmo's decision to stop dubbing this franchise only proves my point, you and sub community are not helping a atelier series grow not by buying them, but by pushing other people away, english dub fans and other people

The exclusion of those people didn't effect the sales of Lydie. So they don't matter to the series's growth.

okay Monterossa. Moki said that is convenient for you because then you don't acknowledge how hard Firis bombed in Japan due to how mediocre Sophie was and it was only a HUGE push by GUST about how much of an improvement Lydie was that it saw the sales it did (plus it was the ONLY one on the switch which is heavily skewing your numbers.)

[Noire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

well you supporting Koei Tecmo's decision to stop dubbing this franchise only proves my point, you and sub community are not helping a atelier series grow not by buying them, but by pushing other people away, english dub fans and other people

The exclusion of those people didn't effect the sales of Lydie. So they don't matter to the series's growth.

But it did affect sales, didn’t it?

If the sales figures are accurate.

[Noire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2d0x:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

...Lydie sold more than Firis in the west.

The number of copies is an abstract indicator. It would be more accurate to know the profit, not the number of copies. Perhaps people bought more copies because the price was lower.
For example, one could sell a lot for a dollar per copy.

Your right, profit is more accurate, however with the low sales how are they making it profitable? I believe it’s the reason for the outrageous DLC prices, game prices. Also the reason these games never go on sale. That’s there attempt to make the series in it’s current state profitable.

[Noire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Monterossa:

There's no Firis or Lydie on Vita in the west.

And you forgot to calculate Lydie's Switch sales.

Firis:
- PS4 - 30k

Lydie:
- PS4 - 40k
- Switch - 20k
Total: 60k

So Lydie sold like twice Firis in the west.

I'm not counting Japan's sales because it's irrelevant to the no dub issue.

So wheres a Firis and Lydie's PC sales?

Ask Monterossa, he provided the links.

I didn't add the switch sales, because Firis never received a switch release.

Judging by how much better it sold on every other console, it's guaranteed to have outsold Lydie on Switch.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Glitter Peace:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

So wheres a Firis and Lydie's PC sales?

Ask Monterossa, he provided the links.

it doesnt show PC sales for Firis and Lydie, so the only way to know this is steamspy

Which shows that right now
Firis 20 000-50 000
Lydie 0- 20 000

also i did asked that guy

[Noire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Glitter Peace:

Ask Monterossa, he provided the links.

it doesnt show PC sales for Firis and Lydie, so the only way to know this is steamspy

Which shows that right now
Firis 20 000-50 000
Lydie 0- 20 000

Yep, steamspy is the best we got to know PC sales.

The figures vgchartz provided only show the Japanese demographic. PC Steam sales are global, it would be great to see the sales for each region.

[Mordecai and the Kobokerz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Glitter Peace:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mordekai and the Guffys:

it doesnt show PC sales for Firis and Lydie, so the only way to know this is steamspy

Which shows that right now
Firis 20 000-50 000
Lydie 0- 20 000

Yep, steamspy is the best we got to know PC sales.

The figures vgchartz provided only show the Japanese demographic. PC Steam sales are global, it would be great to see the sales for each region.

True, also what do you think of Atelier games released every year,