Nurgle team still bottom tier

[Madness]

Not going to buy this game, after suffering through part 1 and 2 as a Nurgle player. Sick and tired of playing an F-tier team and getting stomped.

[Jaina]

I'm genuinely curious what your desired outcome is here.

There are 12 playable teams in BB3. If you don't enjoy playing Nurgle, you could try one of the other 11?

Alternatively, you could try playing the campaign? The AI is ridiculously easy to beat, and highly unlikely to stomp anyone. I recently started a team with 11 Rotters and no positionals, and still easily won most early matches by three or four to nil.

Or is your complaint just that you're a lifelong Nurgle fan for thematic reasons and hate the current roster implementation? Because that one's really on GW, and Cyanide's license is probably locking them in to using the official teams as published.

There's plenty of valid reasons at this stage for people to decide not to buy the game. Yet I would love to hear what the thought process is behind protesting it because a low-tier team of niche specialists are correctly implemented as low-tier?

[Madness]

Originally posted by Jaina:

Or is your complaint just that you're a lifelong Nurgle fan for thematic reasons and hate the current roster implementation? Because that one's really on GW, and Cyanide's license is probably locking them in to using the official teams as published.

This, for the last 2 editions, its been nothing but suffering, and I have had enough of it. So unless they get buffs, I will pass.

[Lfod]

I've seen people talk about Nurgle that are a lot better at the game with me. They say they are weak at low TV but are one of the good teams when they reach higher TV. So basically any Nurgle coach willing to grind with the team will end up with one of the strong late game teams.

[Jaina]

Thanks for clarifying.

I'm sceptical when, how or if GW are likely to improve them at all, but best of luck all the same.

[peremptor]

Originally posted by Madness:

Originally posted by Jaina:

Or is your complaint just that you're a lifelong Nurgle fan for thematic reasons and hate the current roster implementation? Because that one's really on GW, and Cyanide's license is probably locking them in to using the official teams as published.

This, for the last 2 editions, its been nothing but suffering, and I have had enough of it. So unless they get buffs, I will pass.

The way BB is balanced seems like GW is content leaving them in their current position as a 2nd tier team... just play as team of rotters and play for inducements haha.

[HolyGrail]

Originally posted by Lfod:

So basically any Nurgle coach willing to grind with the team will end up with one of the strong late game teams.

By then people will follow the greener pasture theory and concede even if it looks like it'll be a fun and equal game, unless ofc they can squish you with Morg and dip their hand into their treasury to bring a wizard alongside him. Nothing against the latter coaches, it'd be fine if for 14 games in a row it wasn't either the former or latter.

[peremptor]

Originally posted by DeathevokatioN:

Originally posted by Lfod:

So basically any Nurgle coach willing to grind with the team will end up with one of the strong late game teams.

By then people will follow the greener pasture theory and concede even if it looks like it'll be a fun and equal game, unless ofc they can squish you with Morg and dip their hand into their treasury to bring a wizard alongside him. Nothing against the latter coaches, it'd be fine if for 14 games in a row it wasn't either the former or latter.

The issue is the way the QP is set up as you said previously yourself... no incentive to play unless you think you got the upper hand on the opponent and can proceed to enjoy said advantage over them. Pretty freaking lame.

[Madness]

Originally posted by peremptor:

Originally posted by DeathevokatioN:

By then people will follow the greener pasture theory and concede even if it looks like it'll be a fun and equal game, unless ofc they can squish you with Morg and dip their hand into their treasury to bring a wizard alongside him. Nothing against the latter coaches, it'd be fine if for 14 games in a row it wasn't either the former or latter.

The issue is the way the QP is set up as you said previously yourself... no incentive to play unless you think you got the upper hand on the opponent and can proceed to enjoy said advantage over them. Pretty freaking lame.

not at all, but having a fighting chance would be nice, instead of knowing the outcome before you even get the game started.

[Madness]

Originally posted by Lfod:

I've seen people talk about Nurgle that are a lot better at the game with me. They say they are weak at low TV but are one of the good teams when they reach higher TV. So basically any Nurgle coach willing to grind with the team will end up with one of the strong late game teams.

If the point was them being the strongest team at endgame, I get it. But that isn't even the case. At high TV there are still at least 2-3 teams (skaven/chaos chosen/Delf) better... And those teams don't have it as difficult as Nurgle during the climb.

[ToZoR]

Team are not design to be balance (thanks GW) and Nurgle are one you have to struggle to climb and finally got a competitive team. But think about Old world alliance, you will never have a competitive team, thanks to the stupid loner on dwarfs...

[Lfod]

Originally posted by Madness:

Originally posted by Lfod:

I've seen people talk about Nurgle that are a lot better at the game with me. They say they are weak at low TV but are one of the good teams when they reach higher TV. So basically any Nurgle coach willing to grind with the team will end up with one of the strong late game teams.

If the point was them being the strongest team at endgame, I get it. But that isn't even the case. At high TV there are still at least 2-3 teams (skaven/chaos chosen/Delf) better... And those teams don't have it as difficult as Nurgle during the climb.

I get what you are saying. It takes the fun away when you have to stick to close to a meta when playing. Still though at least they get more love that Black Orcs.

[Grimmsch]

Cute. It is according to the rulebook.
You have to contact Games Workshop if they change the rules for you.

[Madness]

Originally posted by Grimmsch:

Cute. It is according to the rulebook.
You have to contact Games Workshop if they change the rules for you.

You will be happy to know that this "balance" is also keeping me from purchasing BB irl.
This fed up consumer is voting with his wallet.

[Socialist Marxman]

Originally posted by Madness:

Not going to buy this game, after suffering through part 1 and 2 as a Nurgle player. Sick and tired of playing an F-tier team and getting stomped.

You could always play Old World Alliance like I am.
After about 10 games you'll look at Nurgle with envious and reverent tones. Im currently 1300 TV and it is a very painful and brutal affair to deal with.
My logic is if you can be decent(i know that im gonna lose 2/3 of my matches, especially coming back to BB after a long hiatus) with a Crap Tier team then you'll do even better with a good tier team. Im playing it like its Competition league. I don't concede, i leave my players down on the pitch when i have 5 left and cant effect the ball. I save apos for my key positionals. Truly, if i was playing dwarves or some easier team, i wouldn't be able to shake off the rust as quickly.

[Madness]

Originally posted by Socialist Marxman:

Originally posted by Madness:

Not going to buy this game, after suffering through part 1 and 2 as a Nurgle player. Sick and tired of playing an F-tier team and getting stomped.

You could always play Old World Alliance like I am.
After about 10 games you'll look at Nurgle with envious and reverent tones. Im currently 1300 TV and it is a very painful and brutal affair to deal with.
My logic is if you can be decent(i know that im gonna lose 2/3 of my matches, especially coming back to BB after a long hiatus) with a Crap Tier team then you'll do even better with a good tier team. Im playing it like its Competition league. I don't concede, i leave my players down on the pitch when i have 5 left and cant effect the ball. I save apos for my key positionals. Truly, if i was playing dwarves or some easier team, i wouldn't be able to shake off the rust as quickly.

This is true, but for this "fun" experience, I can just boot up BB2