Heroes likely to be nerfed or rebalanced next patch?

[HaylingZar]

It's already likely that techies, antimage, leshrac and perhaps gyrocopter will be nerfed / rebalanced in the next patch. Are there any other heroes that you think will be / are in need of a nerf or rebalance?

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Hopefully storm spirit and BS. I really want a total rework for beastmaster, cuz he's just not very good.

[Paul Blart]

how is it likely that techies or anti will be nerfed? i think you're just having problems vs them and want to see it. it isnt likely.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Techies probably will be because of the sheer amount of rage surrounding those little ♥♥♥♥♥.

[niko]

Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:

how is it likely that techies or anti will be nerfed? i think you're just having problems vs them and want to see it. it isnt likely.

I don't get why AM would get a nerf, but Techies is actually really likely if you think about it. He did really well at TI and was banned a good bunch against teams like EG and Secret. A nerf is likely, even if small, I expect it to be on his suicide, probably a cooldown increase.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Hopefully they remove suicide and replace it with an ability that isn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Also having mines grant some gold when destroyed, or a short timer delay on proxies so you have a second to try and escape with something like blink or force staff. Even like a .6 second delay.

[ItsJay]

Slark?

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Nerfed or buffed? Slark is actually pretty okay in this patch, and I hate to say that cuz I hate slark. But I haven't seen a slark eat an enemy team solo in a while.

[niko]

Originally posted by The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!:

Hopefully they remove suicide and replace it with an ability that isn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Also having mines grant some gold when destroyed, or a short timer delay on proxies so you have a second to try and escape with something like blink or force staff. Even like a .6 second delay.

It isn't "horse ♥♥♥♥" because it's easily dodgeable unless they go for some combo like Tusk Snowball for example. Land mines do have a delay, same for the stasis ones. Only ones that don't are the remotes. You know nothing about techies do you?

[Les Yeux De Ni ni]

Originally posted by TBG Nebulous | trade.tf:

It's already likely that techies, antimage, leshrac and perhaps gyrocopter will be nerfed / rebalanced in the next patch. Are there any other heroes that you think will be / are in need of a nerf or rebalance?

pl pudge earthshaker gyro storm wyvern tusk lesh bs NEED NERF!

[Paul Blart]

Originally posted by Dio:

Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:

how is it likely that techies or anti will be nerfed? i think you're just having problems vs them and want to see it. it isnt likely.

I don't get why AM would get a nerf, but Techies is actually really likely if you think about it. He did really well at TI and was banned a good bunch against teams like EG and Secret. A nerf is likely, even if small, I expect it to be on his suicide, probably a cooldown increase.

well it was just banned vs them because there were players who were obnoxious with techies. he would have been banned more if more pros played him.

just because they're annoying doesnt mean they need a nerf.

[ItsJay]

Originally posted by The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!:

Nerfed or buffed? Slark is actually pretty okay in this patch, and I hate to say that cuz I hate slark. But I haven't seen a slark eat an enemy team solo in a while.

Buffed Last time i Played as him he didnt seem to good or maybe he just didnt fit my playstyle on the battlefield...

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Proxies have no delay, and suicide is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because it does a ton of damage, deneis techies, AND reduces his respawn time. If anything it should increase it. The fact he has a deny on a stick is annoying as ♥♥♥♥, even if he doesn't hit anyone with it.

[niko]

Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:

Originally posted by Dio:

I don't get why AM would get a nerf, but Techies is actually really likely if you think about it. He did really well at TI and was banned a good bunch against teams like EG and Secret. A nerf is likely, even if small, I expect it to be on his suicide, probably a cooldown increase.

well it was just banned vs them because there were players who were obnoxious with techies. he would have been banned more if more pros played him.

just because they're annoying doesnt mean they need a nerf.

Didn't say they would get a nerf because of 'annoying'. He did well at the pro scene, and it's probable for him to get a nerf since he's actually really strong if played by good players. But as I said, his suicide is a big thing specially with the Tusk + Techies snowball combo and it might get either a cooldown or damage nerf. Though I can't be sure unless I have official info.

[niko]

Originally posted by The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!:

Proxies have no delay, and suicide is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because it does a ton of damage, deneis techies, AND reduces his respawn time. If anything it should increase it. The fact he has a deny on a stick is annoying as ♥♥♥♥, even if he doesn't hit anyone with it.

He NEEDS suicide. Otherwise he's just food early game, he needs a way to deny himself because he's incredibly weak, and suicide is mostly good early game and it falls off lategame for anything other than some damage and denying himself from the enemy team, and increasing the respawn time for suiciding is just stupid.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Then does CM need suicide? Does lion need suicide? Does shadow shaman need suicide? Saying he's easy to kill isn't a valid argument, plenty of heroes are easy to kill early game, and none of them have a deny. What he needs is a rework. No one polarizes the dota community like techies, and the reason is the same reason valve made snipers in tf2 have to charge. The idea of being able to kill enemies without even being in the same part of the map elminates engagement, something everyone else has to do, and it leaves players feeling cheated. It just isn't fun, plain and simple. Global ults are one thing, but techies is just a game ruiner. Couple it with the fact that he can stall out a game for 40 minute by himself, and you have a hero that most people hate because even when he's on your team he doesn't help in team fights in the traditional way other heroes do.